2020sports said:

no i think winning is still important, because competition, exposure and "good film" follows winning. Peters for example- is a good program but their reg season competition is not very good- and 2023 might be their "best ever"

sadly the less important thing becomes loyalty and community pride. There are just so few consistent, solid winning FB programs in Western PA, with decent resources and consistent good coaching. I would argue maybe only 4 or 5, and pcc is one of them, prob #1 as a "destination" program. And these kids who might start getting money, thousands per month, maybe when they are 17 yrs old- jeez this stuff is not fake fantasy, it's real friggin $$, more "income" than a lot of their parents, even parents with normal real jobs

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who is the better competition that Central plays on a yearly basis other than North Allegheny and some random out of state or eastern PA team that typically cleans their clock?

2020sports said:

bp- these kids do not care about "good high school academics" and they would be stupid if they did. the "stakes" for the best "one percent kids" is so different than it was even 3 years ago. The coaching at Lebo has been bad the last 3 years- USC and Peters football programs are good not great. These kids want/need the best coaching, best competition and best exposure.

Out of hs- these kids are signing 6 figure NIL contracts- sorry- but playing for the "neighborhood" school should not be a priority for these 1% kids

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what makes Lehmeier a better coach than the Peters or USC coach or really any coach?

they would be stupid if they care about good high school academics? uh what???

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new2pa said:

2020: Unfortunately IMO, that is becoming more true than ever (NIL). Its funny, with that being the/a goal, perhaps winning isn't as important.

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no i think winning is still important, because competition, exposure and "good film" follows winning. Peters for example- is a good program but their reg season competition is not very good- and 2023 might be their "best ever"

sadly the less important thing becomes loyalty and community pride. There are just so few consistent, solid winning FB programs in Western PA, with decent resources and consistent good coaching. I would argue maybe only 4 or 5, and pcc is one of them, prob #1 as a "destination" program. And these kids who might start getting money, thousands per month, maybe when they are 17 yrs old- jeez this stuff is not fake fantasy, it's real friggin $$, more "income" than a lot of their parents, even parents with normal real jobs

BradlyPitt said:

that's ridiculous

instead of trying to build a legacy and continue a winning tradition his brother was a part of, he goes to the football factory where nobody cares about him and nobody will remember him

not to mention Mt. Lebanon is also a highly rated public school that always has top athletic programs, so what is the point? you don't want to go to school with girls? you want to wear a tie?

I actually think Peters, USC, and Lebo might be ranked 1 - 3 public schools in the entire Pittsburgh region

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bp- these kids do not care about "good high school academics" and they would be stupid if they did. the "stakes" for the best "one percent kids" is so different than it was even 3 years ago. The coaching at Lebo has been bad the last 3 years- USC and Peters football programs are good not great. These kids want/need the best coaching, best competition and best exposure.

Out of hs- these kids are signing 6 figure NIL contracts- sorry- but playing for the "neighborhood" school should not be a priority for these 1% kids

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Multi-faceted, complex situation between Public and Private that doesn't directly align with the Non-boundary vs Boundary athletics issue.

Education:
Public schools have to cater to everyone, which includes the lowest level of IQ, effort, family-life, etc. This can minimize the focus on the highest level kids and the kids in the middle as there is only so much capacity.
Private schools can accept only who they want and who can pay. Education should be expected to be at a much higher level than the best of the best Public school. No one can fault kids/families for challenging themselves at these schools.

Athletics:
Boundary schools can only utilize kids who live in their geographic boundaries.
Non-boundary schools can pluck kids from anywhere. Advantage is even more prevalent in large population centers and areas where the public schools are unsatisfactory. No reason these schools compete for championships against Boundary schools.

northalleghenytiger said:

James Halter is from Mt. Lebanon. His older brother was on the state title team

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that's ridiculous

instead of trying to build a legacy and continue a winning tradition his brother was a part of, he goes to the football factory where nobody cares about him and nobody will remember him

not to mention Mt. Lebanon is also a highly rated public school that always has top athletic programs, so what is the point? you don't want to go to school with girls? you want to wear a tie?

I actually think Peters, USC, and Lebo might be ranked 1 - 3 public schools in the entire Pittsburgh region

where are those kids from? I know Gatten lives in Peters

if I was a top prospect I would rather help my hometown school win, if Gatten is as good as advertised he could've helped Peters win WPIAL 5A last year, I would think that would be more enjoyable than helping a private school win

and then take a kid like Bradley Gompers, he was the player of the year he easily could've been the difference in Upper St. Clair winning 5A, along with being a part of back to back WPIAL 6A champion basketball team, and could've helped them possibly win the state in basketball

what do these kids get out of playing at a private school that they wouldn't get from being at top public schools with top athletic programs? on top of that the private school has no girls and you have to wear a tie every day

these kids could have a nice legacy with their hometown school, there isn't much of a legacy at Central when they churn out title teams and D1 kids every year, the only kid with a legacy at Central is Dan Marino

I can understand somebody like Shane Murray going to Central, he lived in Hazelwood or Eugene Jarvis who I think lived in East Liberty, or Damar Hamlin who lived in Mckees Rocks, but not kids that live in rich schools with top athletic programs

maybe it's just me but I would get little satisfaction out of winning with these private schools

lilromeo said:

Any information on st joes schedule ?

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lilromeo said:

plus prebula transferring from penn state who was from central york.

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Good call - totally forgot about Beau going there. Time will tell if PSU made the correct choice.

RoverNation05 said:

Sean Gleeson is the QB coach there, he was at Princeton for a while. I think is from Jersey.

Mizzou used to have a ln eastern Pa guy on staff, I remember there was a connection where Jaleel Clark from Parkland committed there a million years ago.

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Also just noticed he was also at Rutgers more recently which probably established relationships with those three PA QBs.

Fletchster1 said:

Two SE PA kids to Mizzou - some local connection?

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Sean Gleeson is the QB coach there, he was at Princeton for a while. I think is from Jersey.

Mizzou used to have a ln eastern Pa guy on staff, I remember there was a connection where Jaleel Clark from Parkland committed there a million years ago.

Fletchster1 said:

Two SE PA kids to Mizzou - some local connection?

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plus prebula transferring from penn state who was from central york.

Two SE PA kids to Mizzou - some local connection?

Fletchster1 said:

I assume this means Sidwar goes elsewhere.

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And you’re right, headed to Missouri.

bucksftball said:

Since it's the quiet time on the board... looked at some of the repeats from last year and new matchups this year. Add the games you look forward to seeing.

CB West @ Easton - should be another good one
North Penn @ Downingtown East - NP will be the odds-on favorite in the SOL
Downingtown West @ Bethlehem Freedom
Garnet Valley @ Coatesville
Neshaminy @ Emmaus - first look at Neshaminy under the new staff
PCC vs LaSalle - D1 talent all over the field for both teams, can LaSalle balance out their passing attack with a run game?
Northampton @ Pennsbury - Koncrete Kids venture south to what's now a very nice facility at Pennsbury HS
Archbishop Wood @ CB South - just to see if Wood was able to attract enough talent to be competitive

D1 vs D11 continues to be very good for high school football in eastern PA, hopefully it continues for many years to come.

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I assume this means Sidwar goes elsewhere.

Last year he committed to VT right after Huhn committed to Penn State. I wonder if a decommit there is coming.

When the article ran last week in the MCall about how Falzone’s dad and James Franklin had such a good relationship stemming from the Jahan Dotson recruitment, I had a feeling this one was over.

As I’ve written here a lot, I think Falzone is really good. Best QB recruit up here in a long, long time. I think Easton coach Matt Senneca is the only other Valley kid to play quarterback for the Nittany Lions.

Nazareth should be pretty good this year. They’ll have to figure out how to play defense, but with Falzone and Marquez Wimberly they’ll score a ton of points.