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I think Moon is a bit overrated currently but make no mistake, if he wanted to come PR, he would be welcomed with open arms and be #1 on the depth chart. Aren't the Webb brothers from Seneca Valley via the Hill District?
eh- Moon he might be a 1 now, but not easily as of last summer- this year, the 24 season, our DBs included 3 All-state kids

Webb kids- not sure

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Several of these kids had reached out to Pine richland, to transfer here- my guess is the staff told them they are not gonna "walk in and be a #1" with no competition.
I think Moon is a bit overrated currently but make no mistake, if he wanted to come PR, he would be welcomed with open arms and be #1 on the depth chart. Aren't the Webb brothers from Seneca Valley via the Hill District?

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These are now these players 4th/5th schools since middle school. Add in Jance Henry from Central Valley now at Archbishop Hoban in Akron, who was at Aliquippa at one point as well. I’ve heard the Taylor kid from canevin is probably gone as well. Talented players but they don’t seem like they have the right guidance. Not sure any of them are IMG or SFA starter material. Interesting to see this in recent weeks after what happened last offseason. Quite the 365.
wow yea the stuff w the Quip now is really weird, so many kids moving in and out. I'd like to "root for" our local kids- but yipes, these kids seem to have zero loyalty.

Several of these kids had reached out to Pine richland, to transfer here- my guess is the staff told them they are not gonna "walk in and be a #1" with no competition.

Here is another big factor- the schools listed in this thread have "b-teams" that some of these kids might play on. I have only watched Moon and Henry- they are very good but IMO neither of them would be studs on a top ten HS team like IMG or SFA

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Yeah, Roy is one of the best football players in the country - he was all state last year, four star defensive tackle, I think was down to Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State/Notre Dame. Kind of surprised he’s wrestling coming off an ACL tear from NHSCA nationals last year, which cost him his entire football season, but he clearly loves the sport and is pretty good. He’s ranked #2 in the state at heavy behind Dean Bechtold (OJR) who is one of the best heavyweights in America (state finalist as a sophomore, committed to Lehigh).

I think Connellsville is quite good. Here’s who they have ranked in the state -
106: #4 Tommy Grentz
114: #15 Zach Franks
121: #8 Nolan Rice
139: #2 Kai Vielma
152: #2 Evan Petrovich
160: #5 Lonzy Vielma
215: #23 Chris Cook

Compared with CRS
107: #20 John Segata
133: #1 Anthony Mutarelli
139: #8 Pat Woloshyn
160: #10 Ben Brillhart
172: #8 Gavin Cole
285: #21 Jeff Gessner

I think South probably needs to win the toss to control the match ups they want and get Woloshyn and Brillhart off of the Vielma brothers, so probably bumping Brillhart to 172 and Cole to 189. I havent dug in yet to their other starters to see how those match ups are. But Connellsville has a lot of high end kids who can rack up bonus points - Petrovich is nationally ranked and I think should be a state finalist (he was #1 until Maddox Shaw dropped, who he won’t beat). And the Grentz/Vielmas/Rice group all very easily could be state semifinalsts with at least a shot of wrestling Saturday night. Staying off your backs will be huge.

Connellsville is a really good program - Easton wrestled them in the 2004 and 2005 state dual finals (the ‘05 loss still blows my mind) and they haven’t been back since, but they’re always kind of lurking with a couple really good kids. This was a big group coming up through the youth programs that they’re seeing the fruits of. It’ll take a heck of an effort, but CRS is also that kind of program.
Thanks Rover, always appreciate your insight. If I read the brackets correctly, could get another North-South match in the consolation round.

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Rover, does South have a puncher's chance against Connelsville? I was reading about the SJP match and sounds like their heavyweight is a stud. Maxwell Roy was 6th in the state last year and going to Ohio State to play DT.
Yeah, Roy is one of the best football players in the country - he was all state last year, four star defensive tackle, I think was down to Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State/Notre Dame. Kind of surprised he’s wrestling coming off an ACL tear from NHSCA nationals last year, which cost him his entire football season, but he clearly loves the sport and is pretty good. He’s ranked #2 in the state at heavy behind Dean Bechtold (OJR) who is one of the best heavyweights in America (state finalist as a sophomore, committed to Lehigh).

I think Connellsville is quite good. Here’s who they have ranked in the state -
106: #4 Tommy Grentz
114: #15 Zach Franks
121: #8 Nolan Rice
139: #2 Kai Vielma
152: #2 Evan Petrovich
160: #5 Lonzy Vielma
215: #23 Chris Cook

Compared with CRS
107: #20 John Segata
133: #1 Anthony Mutarelli
139: #8 Pat Woloshyn
160: #10 Ben Brillhart
172: #8 Gavin Cole
285: #21 Jeff Gessner

I think South probably needs to win the toss to control the match ups they want and get Woloshyn and Brillhart off of the Vielma brothers, so probably bumping Brillhart to 172 and Cole to 189. I havent dug in yet to their other starters to see how those match ups are. But Connellsville has a lot of high end kids who can rack up bonus points - Petrovich is nationally ranked and I think should be a state finalist (he was #1 until Maddox Shaw dropped, who he won’t beat). And the Grentz/Vielmas/Rice group all very easily could be state semifinalsts with at least a shot of wrestling Saturday night. Staying off your backs will be huge.

Connellsville is a really good program - Easton wrestled them in the 2004 and 2005 state dual finals (the ‘05 loss still blows my mind) and they haven’t been back since, but they’re always kind of lurking with a couple really good kids. This was a big group coming up through the youth programs that they’re seeing the fruits of. It’ll take a heck of an effort, but CRS is also that kind of program.
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These are now these players 4th/5th schools since middle school. Add in Jance Henry from Central Valley now at Archbishop Hoban in Akron, who was at Aliquippa at one point as well. I’ve heard the Taylor kid from canevin is probably gone as well. Talented players but they don’t seem like they have the right guidance. Not sure any of them are IMG or SFA starter material. Interesting to see this in recent weeks after what happened last offseason. Quite the 365.

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Last year Aliquippa brought in somewhere between 8 and 11 transfers as they "prepped" for the move to 5A, which never came. I guess it wasn't the greatest place because 3 of their best players have now transferred:

Larry Moon 37 D1 offers -----> IMG (FL)
Sa'Nir Brooks 6 D1 offers -----> St. Francis (MD)
Jamar Allen 2 D1 offers -----> St. Francis (MD)

Live by the transfer, die by the transfer...
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My takeaway from 2024 PIAA state championships

I think he had problems with drugs and was a terrible, disinterested student. I think an incredibly undisciplined guy, not necessarily a bad one. From people I know who know him, I get the impression he’s a nice enough guy, not malicious, just doesn’t really know a good decision from a bad one.

I know he’s been in and out of trouble over the last decade or so. Last I saw, he was working with Adam Atiyeh, who was the middle linebacker on that Parkland team who played at Pitt, who now runs a tree business in Allentown. Atiyeh has his own demons, but is certainly one of the toughest SOBs ever. His dad is Dennis Atiyeh, who was a state champ heavyweight wrestler and all state defensive end for Dieruff (played with Andre Reed), then played defensive tackle on the Dan Marino Pitt teams, then played in the USFL and wrestled in the Olympics for Syria. I also saw him come down on the mat and try to fight an official during regionals when Adam was wrestling Marcus Millen. Matt did not come down and join the fray.
he had some problems for sure

i only saw him play in that 2002 state title game, but in that one game i still think he's the best high school running back i ever saw

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Does it make any sense for CRS and SJP to both drive all the way to Gettysburg tomorrow? They could have wrestled locally tonight and the winner takes the ride tomorrow.
No, the whole thing is stupid. There is less than no reason for this to be a 20 team bracket, with satellite first round sites, and full wrestle backs. Just dumber than dumb.

Nazareth just drove to Wallenpaupack to wrestled Boiling Springs. They got a couple JV kids into the lineup to get them some state experience, and won 50-14. They’ll do something similar to Wallenpaupack in the next session. Bethlehem Catholic has Sun Valley in thirty minutes if you’ve ever wanted to see a public execution.

Big news from today though is, Landon Sidun (Norwin) broke his hand over the weekend and is out for the rest of the year. Sidun is #1 in the country at 121 and won a state title last year as a freshman. Would have pretty confidently bet on him to win four state titles.

My takeaway from 2024 PIAA state championships

I think he had problems with drugs and was a terrible, disinterested student. I think an incredibly undisciplined guy, not necessarily a bad one. From people I know who know him, I get the impression he’s a nice enough guy, not malicious, just doesn’t really know a good decision from a bad one.

I know he’s been in and out of trouble over the last decade or so. Last I saw, he was working with Adam Atiyeh, who was the middle linebacker on that Parkland team who played at Pitt, who now runs a tree business in Allentown. Atiyeh has his own demons, but is certainly one of the toughest SOBs ever. His dad is Dennis Atiyeh, who was a state champ heavyweight wrestler and all state defensive end for Dieruff (played with Andre Reed), then played defensive tackle on the Dan Marino Pitt teams, then played in the USFL and wrestled in the Olympics for Syria. I also saw him come down on the mat and try to fight an official during regionals when Adam was wrestling Marcus Millen. Matt did not come down and join the fray.
Dennis is one of my favorite people. There is no one like him, that's for sure!

My takeaway from 2024 PIAA state championships

he sounds like a really bad guy

any idea what he is doing today?
I think he had problems with drugs and was a terrible, disinterested student. I think an incredibly undisciplined guy, not necessarily a bad one. From people I know who know him, I get the impression he’s a nice enough guy, not malicious, just doesn’t really know a good decision from a bad one.

I know he’s been in and out of trouble over the last decade or so. Last I saw, he was working with Adam Atiyeh, who was the middle linebacker on that Parkland team who played at Pitt, who now runs a tree business in Allentown. Atiyeh has his own demons, but is certainly one of the toughest SOBs ever. His dad is Dennis Atiyeh, who was a state champ heavyweight wrestler and all state defensive end for Dieruff (played with Andre Reed), then played defensive tackle on the Dan Marino Pitt teams, then played in the USFL and wrestled in the Olympics for Syria. I also saw him come down on the mat and try to fight an official during regionals when Adam was wrestling Marcus Millen. Matt did not come down and join the fray.

My takeaway from 2024 PIAA state championships

He missed his whole junior year for a “knee injury” that I think was widely known he actually got caught selling drugs in the Parkland parking lot and was suspended from all extracurricular activities.

There’s the famous story of Paterno coming to visit him in the spring of his senior year at Parkland, but he’d just stopped coming to school.

How many times did he get suspended at Penn State? 7? 10? Missing class, failing drug tests, sleeping through meetings. Part of the reason he never got the traction at Penn State was because he was always in trouble - Rob Melosky said as much to the Philly Inquirer and that Pete Carroll would never let something like that happen, which royally pissed Paterno off (and I think hurt Lehigh Valley kids getting recruited by Penn State for a few years). When the rape allegation happened, I think they were so ready to be done with him he got kicked off the team immediately.

Scott and Bush were the two Parade All American backs that year.
he sounds like a really bad guy

any idea what he is doing today?

My takeaway from 2024 PIAA state championships

i know he was accused of rape at penn state, was there other issues?

i remember reggie bush was the number 1 running back that season in the nation, i wondered back then how he could be better than Scott but I guess he was lol
He missed his whole junior year for a “knee injury” that I think was widely known he actually got caught selling drugs in the Parkland parking lot and was suspended from all extracurricular activities.

There’s the famous story of Paterno coming to visit him in the spring of his senior year at Parkland, but he’d just stopped coming to school.

How many times did he get suspended at Penn State? 7? 10? Missing class, failing drug tests, sleeping through meetings. Part of the reason he never got the traction at Penn State was because he was always in trouble - Rob Melosky said as much to the Philly Inquirer and that Pete Carroll would never let something like that happen, which royally pissed Paterno off (and I think hurt Lehigh Valley kids getting recruited by Penn State for a few years). When the rape allegation happened, I think they were so ready to be done with him he got kicked off the team immediately.

Scott and Bush were the two Parade All American backs that year.
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My takeaway from 2024 PIAA state championships

Saquon Barkley has had the career I thought Austin Scott would have. But Saquon also has his life together off the field in a way Austin wasn’t close to. That makes a difference.

Scott could play though, huh?
i know he was accused of rape at penn state, was there other issues?

i remember reggie bush was the number 1 running back that season in the nation, i wondered back then how he could be better than Scott but I guess he was lol

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Props to Bristol for just showing up against Faith Christian. I think one match might have gone 2 periods, 78-0.
We once had a match with Allentown Central Catholic that ended 83-0, where the wrestling totaled 19 minutes of real time for 14 matches (and Brad Gentzle got boo’d by the bench for teching his opponent and ruining the 84-0 perfect dual possibility, as soon as he locked up a tilt, people started losing their minds screaming at him). Those duals don’t really do anything for anybody, but I guess there are barely any 2A teams in D1 for FCA to dual. They’ll be up in 3A soon enough.
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