PIne-Richland 2022
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EK is a good dude, im sure he is happy for his previous players- he and his staff actively coached kids starting in 9th grade, so 11th graders he coached 1 yr, 12th graders he coached 2 years- and the 10th graders were his sons group- so he knew most of the kids- bummer for his son, i guess
some kids are now playing college football for 6 or 7 years- yea 7.
22 and 23 grads have been really screwed- some spots are taken by players transferring- some colleges are taking ZERO high school kids on scholarships- and with NIL- some are making money, so are motivated to stay in college as long as possible
Thats a big miss . I would take him in a heartbeat as a DB for sure. Someone needs to step forward .
I mean Sunday evening he seemed to be pretty proud of them.
They wouldn't have skipped a beat. Palmieri would've moved to RB and Kasper's son would've been right beside him at QB. Could've fed Palmieri the ball as much as they want to.
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Dr Miller is punching air right now
well it would be a bad look to say he wasn't happy for them, we all have egos, coaches have HUGE egos
i wouldn't blame him at all if he felt bitter about them winning, he doesn't look that important now
Palmieri was at running back and they stunk
will this put to rest the rumor that PR school board wants to "be known for academics" and wants to stink at sports, like many of Kasper's allies said?Banner fall season for Pine-Richland athletics | Trib HSSN
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Dont worry, the holdover school board members will be voted out when their elections are held. It was never about winning on the field, it was the sham investigation and their general insulting of peoples intellegence that lead to the first wave of board members being replaced in the last election.
Why would he care about how he looked over a private conversation?
Those same kids are the same kids that his own kid has grown up with. Why would he not be proud of those kids?
how close are you with him?
i'm sure he's happy for the kids, but it has to be very bittersweet
Get your story straight BP- not sure why you gotta agitate
The leaders (Superintendent, etc) publicly said Kasper "cared too much about winning" that is not just "an opinion of Kasper allies"
And- lots of those "PR leaders" are now gone, partly why PR is kinda "back to normal"
From April 2021 until now, the following people "left" either quit/resigned/voted out....NOT retired
-school board president position (member voted out of this job by board)
-5 school board members
-2 Athletic Directors
-HS Head Principal
-HS Assistant Principal
I'm a fan of PR football fan- not a "Kasper fanboy." We just wanted a good coach- he WAS a good coach, Campos was not a good coach, LeDonne IS a good coach... kinda "back to normal" at PR
but if you are in his shoes, you don't think it lessens his impact and legacy on the program if they continue to win without him?
if you were fired from your job, do you root for your replacement to do well?
well did that really play into his firing, or were the hazing allegations very serious?
I think the “continue to win” part now really comes into play full force. It’s the “Tomlin won with Cowher’s guys” argument right now.
Frankly, 5A in WPIAL the last couple years has been deep but without any wow-factor teams. P-R, Penn-Trafford, Peters, Penn Hills, BP, Gateway, USC are all above average to very good. But I wouldn’t say any have been great or are in the top 20 teams of the past 10 years in the large classes.
Bottom line, P-R could keep it rolling, it they need to find a QB.
no hazing problem, bogus, over 8 years, a couple locker room fist fights between kids, the coaches sometimes yelled at kids, did not play favorites, some parents likely complained about playing time- that's it- oh yea, and Kasper was "not a kiss ass" to school leadership
the general consensus is the people who left knew the whole thing was bogus and the community wanted / demanded leadership change
they actually have some good qb options- 5 varsity- no obvious studs like Phil, but maybe the best depth in a lot of years
phew- tiger- im pretty sure everyone has said this, but i will say it again- the 6A teams in WPIAL D7" are not "tougher competition" in the WPIAL than 5. IMO the only "big boy" in 6A is SJP.
We are better off in 5A in order to have good competition. And, im pretty sure no one in the whole state "plays up to 6A." And, yea maybe partly b/c of SJP, I'd rather not- but, it's not that we have always done bad against SJP, but all levels have minimum and max- 6A has only min, no max- would be stupid for anyone to voluntarily jump up to that. And, with the shrinking numbers, 6A might have to start traveling far for Reg season games. So, joining a conference, with super small # of teams, not better competition- and maybe having to travel far all year? Nope stupid.
We played 3 6A teams this year, probably none of them, including NA would fall into our "top 5 toughest teams" faced this year. And- in 20 and 21- if we had "played up" we would have had to play Hempfield Area and Norwin? They are so bad, im sure some 2A or 3A teams could beat them.
It’s going in 5 years since NA beat P-R and they begged off week 0 in 2020.
NA needs to concentrate on beating state college before wanting to tangle with the big boys.
QB-
by "rising grades" actually 6
10- Franchak and Macik
11- Ryan Beam, Heath Cwynar, Vaughn Spencer
12- Kanan Huffman
all of the 4 older kids could be "decent to good"
my personal pick is Beam, but my guess is the coaches will give all 4 older kids some consideration throughout spring and summer
if they keep the same system, my bigger Q is #2 running back, we really lucked out having Palmieri and Pillar stay healthy- if either got hurt PR would not have gone as far
I meant the biggest boy (SJP)
only 2 public schools have been able to beat SJP. PR being one of them. Then they moved down????? Make it make sense
As i have said in other threads- Western PA is very different than eastern Pa cuz of population-
#1- just guessing here, but Philly metro has 5-6 million, pittsburgh has 1 million, very different- cities are like 1.5 million to 300k, very different
#2- many areas of central and eastern Pa are growing pgh area is shrinking
#3- Philly city schools have like 200K kids, pgh has like 35
#4- PR enrollment did not go down, it stayed the same- many other PA schools went up
5 years ago we were a "small 6 A" team, barely enough enrollment to put us in 6. so 2 years ago, PIAA #s put us in 5A- and Pr AD and coach decided to "play where we're put" and not "play up." And again, it's not about "being afraid to play" bigger schools- the main benefit is more teams locally to play. PR benefitted this year from that- best of 18. If this year we would have "won a championship" among 5 D7 teams? kinda meaningless and stupid.
So then that leads us back to the only debate- playing 6A to face SJP? idk, im pretty sure about 99% of HS coaches in PA would not choose that. and, id also say, PR people respect SJP, but do not "fear them"
Why move up? They beat the hell out of the universities of North Allegheny and Central Catholic this year. Just tougher boys out in PR than pansy as North Allegheny. Disaster
Why move up? To play St.Joes, duh. You realize PCC is 5A enrollment right? Yet they choose to stay up here because they know they can win state at the most competitive level. If anyone looks like a “pansy” in this scenario, it’s PR
The team that whoops the university of central Catholic? No one is beating st Joe
From what I've heard from multiple former coaches and others around the program is that the SJP's "approach" to high school football (Coach Infanti) in terms of scheme, off-season training, expectations, etc. was solidified after that championship game in 2014. Very much a college-type atmosphere in terms of how the coaches prepared schematically in the off-season, the training program Coach Mal set up as well as expectations for outside-of-training workouts, and most importantly, the expectation to play at the highest level and fear no one.
IMO, because of that mindset, playing local teams, no matter how good they were, was never an issue at P-R again. Nobody in the WPIAL (or rest of state) compared to SJP, and the kids knew they were preparing to beat SJP so everybody else was easy. Sometimes they didn't have the talent to beat SJP, but after the 2014 game, being worried about not being able to compete was never an issue with whoever they played. I'm 100% convinced if the 2014 kids besides DiNucci would have realized this, they would have been SJP in 2014.
I also think Coach K understood this, because after that game, he never said anything again about "recruiting." He figured out that with hard work P-R could compete with them, and with some groups, beat them. And ultimately, that approach probably contributed mightily to getting him fired.
Going forward, P-R is gonna always be a force because of the kids, the facilities and the socio-economic demographic. The trick will be if Coach LeDonne's Aliquippa mentality can be used to build a program completely with his own kids, and not the final group of kids that P-R's old staff coached for 2 years and saw and participated in the success and how things were done.
IMO, because of that mindset, playing local teams, no matter how good they were, was never an issue at P-R again. Nobody in the WPIAL (or rest of state) compared to SJP, and the kids knew they were preparing to beat SJP so everybody else was easy. Sometimes they didn't have the talent to beat SJP, but after the 2014 game, being worried about not being able to compete was never an issue with whoever they played. I'm 100% convinced if the 2014 kids besides DiNucci would have realized this, they would have been SJP in 2014.
I also think Coach K understood this, because after that game, he never said anything again about "recruiting." He figured out that with hard work P-R could compete with them, and with some groups, beat them. And ultimately, that approach probably contributed mightily to getting him fired.
Going forward, P-R is gonna always be a force because of the kids, the facilities and the socio-economic demographic. The trick will be if Coach LeDonne's Aliquippa mentality can be used to build a program completely with his own kids, and not the final group of kids that P-R's old staff coached for 2 years and saw and participated in the success and how things were done.
pretty sure very few people would call pr "pansies"
pcc has 6a enrollment
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