Prep Chants, Ace Carter article

[yesman3]

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...hants_at_games_must_be_stopped.html?mobi=true


Saw this article, was written on the 15th, didn't get any noise on this forum?

Prep has a history of being quite imaginative and brutal with their student section chants. Some of the verbiage is down-right disgraceful. I thought it was just a "LaSalle thing" at first, but have witnessed at other high profile league/non-league games over the last 10 yrs.

I suppose we'll hear of twitters , tweets and instagrams that excited the misconduct, or perhaps an opposing assistant coach posted something a year ago that condoned malfeasance, thus exacted a sharp and penetrating reply.

I realize is not just a Prep thing, they just may do it best and got singled out in this circumstance. Some schools have moderators/school officials or some "adult" with command and respect who can shut this garbage down often times before the 1st sentence is completed. i.e. Mr Fyke, the "general", (he's been called other things!) an example.

I wasn't at the game, can't comment directly. Say what you want about Ace, his qualitative understanding of the area's high school football domain is often questioned, but he's not a guy with an ax to grind about anyone.

Speaking of "adults", where were they?? Were there any adult administrative members present at this game? I'm sure the sexually explicit chant forwarded to the female member of the opposing team could not have been met with satisfaction or approval. I'm not a PC pusher, but this would be well over the top, IMO.


One thing for sure, if Tulla, a most respected and dignified Prepster were the "adult-in-charge", this article most assuredly doesn't get written! IMHO...

 

[Gang $$ Green]

I know a lot of people will think and say this is a hit piece. I can understand that point of view. However this is way over the line for any school period. I might be over the top a bit but big part of what what Prep sells is Jesuit values. In fact in its sales pitch I would say it goes Jesuit Values, Academic Curriculum, Diversity and the fact that it is a City environment and the all important "school connections". It's been very effective and many people rave and I can say that just about anyone who has attended says it was great experience. That's pretty much the ultimate test of an educational experience.

However and there always has to be a however this is point blank a very bad optic for a private Jesuit institution. Clearly kids do silly and stupid things from time to time. Compound that with a culture today that is very much look at me in nature. So the person who creates the chant in bad taste likely celebrated by his peers. Makes it tough for adults and admins to reign this in. However when a student body congregates in the stands they represent your institution and what is being taught and valued there. Might be unfair but when people are around and hear things like this it turns heads. It did that night. I didn't bring it up here but I heard it that night.

Another issue I have with this is it isn't the first time. In fact it's been serial. 15 years ago while I was still coaching in the PCL while scouting I heard the "You will work for us" chants numerous times. Even saw people I knew to be admins chuckle. Heard it multiple weeks. Never corrected. I took it as maybe not condoning it but pretty darn close. Those people are gone. The thought that maybe that was a prevailing attitude of the building never really left me as an outsider. It may be 100% wrong but truthfully it made some things I perceived more real in my own mind then. Again who really cares about my perception or opinion. Let's also not think that there were people there who heard that and formed a similar opinion. Some were potential paying customers. Why the administration would not respond to the claim I don't get. It happened. Address it publicly, address it with student body and move on. In today's world you need admins at football games in the crowd with these kids so this doesn't happen. One chant and its shut down is boys will be boys. This got progressively worse. That's why its in the newspaper. A lot of people could not believe someone involved with Prep, a parent, an admin, an official didn't say anything. Mistakes happen. Kids make mistakes. Been to enough football games to know this and worse can happen. If I know that Prep admins gotta know that. On day where 50% of your stands has no Prep ties and is there to see a great game it's a poor optic for a place the paying customers rave about.

 

[green_beans]

As much as I would love to bash Prep for this (or any other reason) .. I really can't.. this is not a prep thing or a HS football thing.. or even kids being kids thing..it all starts with how the kids are raised..

Attend any youth sporting event.. CYO (and don't get high and mighty - I've seen some real loop-jobs at hoops games), Pop-Warner, travel or rec teams.. the field / stands are filled with parents that act like complete idiots... they curse the coaches, players, parents etc...

Just because someone goes to an expensive school doesn't exempt them for being idiots.. if someone can sell you on the fact that their school is a step above.. I'm sorry but you just bought the magic beans that Jake bought..

Fans in general have gotten out of hand.. People saying they can't believe that a parent didn't say something are delusional... I can see it now.. one parent fighting with another parent because you told their kid to act a certain way..

the only way you can stop this type of behavior is to suspend the kid from school (as they do in public schools.. NP has local police at all games).. good luck with that as the parents will take their $20K and go else where and sue you in the process.. if the administrators wanted to stop this they could.. unfortunately they don't have the bXXXs to do so..

 

[JACKY6996]

I Remeber two years at the state championship they booed pine Richlands band pretty bad and some PCC people told me their band got booed so this truly doesn't surprise me.



Here's some video of the PR's band getting booed you can hear it in the beginning mainly.

 

[tulla]

I was at the game but was sitting on the north end of the Prep side and so didn't really hear of the student section's chants as other than noise. I don't doubt that the reporter and Gang Green heard what they report they heard. I didn't hear any objectionable chants when I was at the LaSalle game in November, but I wasn't next to the student section then either.

I haven't been at many games in recent years--usually just one or, as was the case this year, two. I haven't heard anything like the "You Will Work for Us" chant in about ten years. I don't think any Prep administration was ever OK with such chants, but some administrators in the past may have thought a heavy hand would be counterproductive. I myself think some intervention is called for, but there are good ways and bad ways of intervening and exercising authority and some of the more effective interventions, especially long term, are probably not the most dramatic ones.

Gang Green suggests that things have changed in the culture at large that almost certainly make public coarseness more common and, in the eyes of many, acceptable or at least not worth objecting to. I hear people of all ages using language in public places that we rarely heard in such places decades ago--or even one decade ago. And maybe it's relevant to mention that saying or chanting the "politically incorrect" has perhaps never been so popular and even celebrated. High school students (14-17 years old) pick up on this, and of course teenagers are wired to test the limits of acceptable behavior and language. We also now have a president-elect who said something considerably cruder than what some Prep student chanted, and an awful lot of people seemed to buy his explanation that it was just "locker room banter." I know it wasn't said "in public," but it's in public now.

All this might seem like I'm evading the issue or trying to explain away the objectionable chants. I'm not. But it's worth noting that a relatively small number of over-excited teenage boys can make a lot of noise and that the reaction of some of the people in or near the student section might first have been surprise or a bit of confusion--I'm sure some Prep administrative staff and parents and maybe even some students hadn't a clue North Penn's kicker was a girl--or maybe simple embarrassment combined with a wish the chant would just stop or fizzle out. I have to ask myself what I would have done if I had been next to the student section. To be honest, I think I'd be taken aback for a bit and then wish it would just stop. If I was next to a student who was chanting something vulgar, I'd certainly ask him to stop and tell him why I felt as I did. If I worked at the school, I would want the matter addressed, but I would be careful not to use a broad brush and to consider the matter in its full context, for instance by determining whether such chants had arisen at earlier games.

 

[roxychknpoxy]

Such long commentary on this ... I was next to student section at that game (by coincidence) - NEVER HEARD ANYTHING CHANTED! ... the Dean was in the student section at the game, punishment would have been swift and severe. It was a slanderous article by a hack that is being addressed. The mass of parties at the game including those interviewed never heard a thing??!!

If you weren't there, you can't comment. Of course this thread is started by someone with the progressive passive aggressive axe to grind. Tell us more about the swim team - thanks.

 

[tulla]

Such long commentary on this ... I was next to student section at that game (by coincidence) - NEVER HEARD ANYTHING CHANTED! ... the Dean was in the student section at the game, punishment would have been swift and severe. It was a slanderous article by a hack that is being addressed. The mass of parties at the game including those interviewed never heard a thing??!!

If you weren't there, you can't comment. Of course this thread is started by someone with the progressive passive aggressive axe to grind. Tell us more about the swim team - thanks.

Roxy, If Gang Green said he heard it, I believe him. That said, I don't think it's fair to draw conclusions about the school or even to suggest there's a serious gap between the school's values and some students' behavior because of what a small portion of the school's students chanted in that situation. And if it was the reporter's first Prep game of the year, he was really over-reaching in implying it--or what he saw as a tolerance of it--was symptomatic of the school's culture.

 

[ChesmontLeague1]

Surprised Ace didn't jump on the racist and sexist chant allegations that North Penn students put on the Coatesville cheerleaders, students and apparent players during the playoff game.

 

[yesman3]

Such long commentary on this ... I was next to student section at that game (by coincidence) - NEVER HEARD ANYTHING CHANTED! ... the Dean was in the student section at the game, punishment would have been swift and severe. It was a slanderous article by a hack that is being addressed. The mass of parties at the game including those interviewed never heard a thing??!!

If you weren't there, you can't comment. Of course this thread is started by someone with the progressive passive aggressive axe to grind. Tell us more about the swim team - thanks.

New strategy.... let's attack the messenger and the message. What "axe" does Ace have to grind?... Really, now you're reaching to defame this man, c'mon man!!
"It's being addressed", by who?, the mayors's office or our brothers at the Union League?

Roxy, you could have been sitting IN the Prep student section and I doubt you would ever hear anything objectionable verbalized from your beloved. Perhaps those cochlear implants need a re-evaluation.

You lose total credibility to suggest this type of behavior is not a frequent occurrence from the Prep student section over the years. In fairness, they're not the only ones. You keep ripping that swim team, never comment on those batted Seals you throw in the water though?


I suppose you'd deny April 13th, 1999 ever occurred as well? Little tougher refuting that one...... Fox, CNN, ESPN and Letterman top 10 had quite a bit of fun with that baby!

 

[IAdelco]

Chesmont I had heard about it happening at the Coatesville/North Penn game and couldn't believe it. He wasn't covering the game and therefore couldn't and should not comment or write about the situation. I believe Coatesville Superintendent, who was at the game, filled a formal complaint to North Penn School District and maybe even the PIAA.

I dont want my thread to seem like I am changing this topic to another game or unfortunate incident. I was also in the stands for the North Penn/St.Joe's game and did not hear the chants. That doesn't mean they didn't occur. I would not condone these types of comments at any sporting event. They definitely should be handled by the schools administration and consequences should be handed down to those who participated. However, is writing an article in one of the cities most read newspapers really the forum needed. It only brings more attention to the demeaning chants possibly glorifying and bringing more attention to the act. Ace was there to report about the game being played, not the conduct of the student sections. If he were offended enough by the comments he could have called the school or emailed the Head of the School and reported the situation that had taken place.I don't ever recall Ted Silary covering a game and reporting on the crowd or student's sections behavior and have it overshadow the game. Like Coatesville's Superintendent, she reported the incident to the school and whatever powers to be. She didn't contact the Intelligencer, local North Penn paper, and report the incident. I thought how Ace handled it was unprofessional and in poor judgment when I read the article. I agree Prep students should face discipline, but in my opinion, so should Ace. High School sports reporters' that are fortunate enough to be able to cover sports for such a prestigious paper should cover THE GAME. If you want to go in another direction, write for another column. Back in the day I use to waver about whether to buy the Inquirer or Daily News to read about Friday night or Saturday games. Without Ted writing for the Daily News anymore, it has become a "no brainer". Bottom line, we NEED new talent covering our city and southeastern Pennsylvania sports scenes.

 

[JHoops]

Roxy, If Gang Green said he heard it, I believe him. That said, I don't think it's fair to draw conclusions about the school or even to suggest there's a serious gap between the school's values and some students' behavior because of what a small portion of the school's students chanted in that situation. And if it was the reporter's first Prep game of the year, he was really over-reaching in implying it--or what he saw as a tolerance of it--was symptomatic of the school's culture.

This is the third incident Ace Carter has written about this year. The first was at a Spring-Ford game which happened to Me, Carter himself. There were denials at first but then the individual came forward and apologized to him directly.
The second incident was at the North Penn - Coatesville game. Persons from NP were accused of racial slurs against members of the Coatesville cheerleaders. I was sitting on the Coatesville side and saw how upset they were. The Coatesville School District was looking at the situation, haven't heard what was decided.
Based on that, I don't doubt the veracity of Mr. Carter's reporting. To attack him or put your head in the sand is mind- boggling whether it was his first game there or tenth game.

As a ref who had to be escorted to the parking lot just last night, the attitude to sweep it under the rug is part of the problem. Just address it and move on, The Prep will survive.

The security at NP is actually very poor. You need administrators actively engaged in the student section. The school best at this from my perspective is Souderton, they put up with nothing.

 

[6daystosaturday]

Prep kids have been doing it for years. What was once creative, when we break it down is a bit offensive when you think about it. Prep kids are smart, the environment is highly charged testosterone and so they need to take stock and nothing wrong with reminding them if seems a bit edgy, it's probably offensive. I laugh out loud because some of the most creative chants have come from them, going back and forth with the other student sections. But honestly a lot of that stuff is not stuff you should be saying. I 100% believe it happened, and I also believe it isn't a shot vs. the whole school. Take stock and move on and don't be an a$$hole. Tuition payments don't tell you that, so hopefully someone does to those kids who were involved. I also heard first hand about NP and listen, that stuff happens, and has happened there. You can't fix things if you don't talk about it. And just cause you didn't talk about it didn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[6daystosaturday]

And get over yourself Rox

 

[coverandmove1]

Was at both games, np/ coatesville and np/ prep. Did not a hear a thing. Doesn mean it doesn't or didn't happen. Looks like ace is stirring the pot himself.

 

[Gang $$ Green]

First and foremost this happened. I had the unfortunate displeasure of not getting a choice seat because my buddies and I decided to uber up so we were not there in time for peak position. It should have been stopped in its tracks. It wasn't. It isn't the end of the world. I also don't think it's a grand conspiracy that it was printed.

By the way this stuff has been printed in the past. I particularly remember Ted Silary writing a piece about a mean spirited sign and chant at northeast directed a prep running back who supposedly had a learning disability.

Kids do dumb stuff. Always have, always will. One thing is different from the past. People will say anything and not really worry about any consequence. Can remember a few times walking into my house and getting a look from mom or dad where you started going through that mental rolodex. If you did something stupid or said something stupid within earshot or eyeshot of neighborhood folks who knew your parents they called them or let them know in their social travels and then you heard about it. It also wasn't unusual if you ran your mouth about something that you got your ass kicked strategically by a guy 3 to 5 years older then you. If you told your parents you were a pariah and the other dreaded p word. Point being that by 14 one of the golden rules was watch what you say out loud as it was likely going to have consequences.

Kids don't have this today. Kids will verbally confront adults if corrected. Then a parent backs the kid up. In today's society everbody talks a great tough game. You never have to physically back it up. Anything physical ends up in the Supreme Court. I tell kids all the time it's what I still love about game of football. You know tommy who talks a big game in the school yard or during the pickup basketball game, we are going to find out in between the lines is he a real tough guy or just a poser.

People will say that old way was barbaric and ridiculous. Probably true. A lot less offensive and crazy things were said that's true too.

 

[ChesmontLeague1]

New strategy.... let's attack the messenger and the message. What "axe" does Ace have to grind?... Really, now you're reaching to defame this man, c'mon man!!
"It's being addressed", by who?, the mayors's office or our brothers at the Union League?

Roxy, you could have been sitting IN in Prep student section and I doubt you would ever hear anything objectionable verbalized from your beloved. Perhaps those cochlear implants need a re-evaluation.

You lose total credibility to suggest this type of behavior is not a frequent occurrence from the Prep student section over the years. In fairness, they're not the only ones. You keep ripping that swim team, never comment on those batted Seals you throw in the water though?


I suppose you'd deny April 13th, 1999 ever occurred as well? Little tougher refuting that one...... Fox, CNN, ESPN and Letterman top 10 had quite a bit of fun with that baby!

This is the third incident Ace Carter has written about this year. The first was at a Spring-Ford game which happened to Me, Carter himself. There were denials at first but then the individual came forward and apologized to him directly.
The second incident was at the North Penn - Coatesville game. Persons from NP were accused of racial slurs against members of the Coatesville cheerleaders. I was sitting on the Coatesville side and saw how upset they were. The Coatesville School District was looking at the situation, haven't heard what was decided.
Based on that, I don't doubt the veracity of Mr. Carter's reporting. To attack him or put your head in the sand is mind- boggling whether it was his first game there or tenth game.

As a ref who had to be escorted to the parking lot just last night, the attitude to sweep it under the rug is part of the problem. Just address it and move on, The Prep will survive.

The security at NP is actually very poor. You need administrators actively engaged in the student section. The school best at this from my perspective is Souderton, they put up with nothing.

When I saw a friend of family - WC East grad, very involved w DYW cheer and who has a daughter on Cville cheer post on facebook it made me feel for the cheerleaders and some of the students who went to use the restrooms on the NP side. Apparently some adults on the home side witnessed and let it go. It's over and has been made known to both schools so hopefully it's over. Bad incident and NP and PIAA should mandate better security and admin involvement at these games. On the other side Ace although well intentioned needs not to write an article but maybe reach out to the administration. Ace ..sorry brother (not a racial meaning but man to man) you need to grow thicker skin.

 

[ChesmontLeague1]

Chesmont I had heard about it happening at the Coatesville/North Penn game and couldn't believe it. He wasn't covering the game and therefore couldn't and should not comment or write about the situation. I believe Coatesville Superintendent, who was at the game, filled a formal complaint to North Penn School District and maybe even the PIAA.

I dont want my thread to seem like I am changing this topic to another game or unfortunate incident. I was also in the stands for the North Penn/St.Joe's game and did not hear the chants. That doesn't mean they didn't occur. I would not condone these types of comments at any sporting event. They definitely should be handled by the schools administration and consequences should be handed down to those who participated. However, is writing an article in one of the cities most read newspapers really the forum needed. It only brings more attention to the demeaning chants possibly glorifying and bringing more attention to the act. Ace was there to report about the game being played, not the conduct of the student sections. If he were offended enough by the comments he could have called the school or emailed the Head of the School and reported the situation that had taken place.I don't ever recall Ted Silary covering a game and reporting on the crowd or student's sections behavior and have it overshadow the game. Like Coatesville's Superintendent, she reported the incident to the school and whatever powers to be. She didn't contact the Intelligencer, local North Penn paper, and report the incident. I thought how Ace handled it was unprofessional and in poor judgment when I read the article. I agree Prep students should face discipline, but in my opinion, so should Ace. High School sports reporters' that are fortunate enough to be able to cover sports for such a prestigious paper should cover THE GAME. If you want to go in another direction, write for another column. Back in the day I use to waver about whether to buy the Inquirer or Daily News to read about Friday night or Saturday games. Without Ted writing for the Daily News anymore, it has become a "no brainer". Bottom line, we NEED new talent covering our city and southeastern Pennsylvania sports scenes.

IA - Agreed that our local sports writers need to focus on game. I think putting these incidents in the paper could inflame the situation if future games occur. I gotta say I can think of a writers from Daily Local News, Delco Times and now the idiot from the unIntelligencer writing w his dissatisfaction on Catholic/Private schools in PIAA. Using your local paper to inspire dispise and hate is unfair and potentially dangerous to the athletes. Please just facts and report on game!

 

[JHoops]

IA - Agreed that our local sports writers need to focus on game. I think putting these incidents in the paper could inflame the situation if future games occur. I gotta say I can think of a writers from Daily Local News, Delco Times and now the idiot from the unIntelligencer writing w his dissatisfaction on Catholic/Private schools in PIAA. Using your local paper to inspire dispise and hate is unfair and potentially dangerous to the athletes. Please just facts and report on game!

Ches-Mont,

I respectfully disagree, these situations should be reported on. He's a reporter, everything that transpires at the event is fair game. This is 2016 and these situations (sexist and racial) still go on because people bury their head in the sand and pretend nothing happened, just like the NP parents did, just like whoever is in charge at The Prep. And it will go on and on just like it is apparently quasi-acceptable now.
Just because it makes people uncomfortable doesn't mean it shouldn't be reported. In all three cases, the first reaction was deny, deny, deny. That to me feels like they had the same mentality of sweeping it under the rug, that it's somehow acceptable.

Props to Ace for doing his job as a reporter.

 

[tulla]

Ches-Mont,

I respectfully disagree, these situations should be reported on. He's a reporter, everything that transpires at the event is fair game. This is 2016 and these situations (sexist and racial) still go on because people bury their head in the sand and pretend nothing happened, just like the NP parents did, just like whoever is in charge at The Prep. And it will go on and on just like it is apparently quasi-acceptable now.
Just because it makes people uncomfortable doesn't mean it shouldn't be reported. In all three cases, the first reaction was deny, deny, deny. That to me feels like they had the same mentality of sweeping it under the rug, that it's somehow acceptable.

Props to Ace for doing his job as a reporter.

How do you know "whoever is in charge at the Prep" did nothing? There are an awful lot of assumptions in this thread, many made by people who apparently weren't there.

 

[Bighead75]

WOW so how many days to training camp?

 

[ChesmontLeague1]

Ches-Mont,

I respectfully disagree, these situations should be reported on. He's a reporter, everything that transpires at the event is fair game. This is 2016 and these situations (sexist and racial) still go on because people bury their head in the sand and pretend nothing happened, just like the NP parents did, just like whoever is in charge at The Prep. And it will go on and on just like it is apparently quasi-acceptable now.
Just because it makes people uncomfortable doesn't mean it shouldn't be reported. In all three cases, the first reaction was deny, deny, deny. That to me feels like they had the same mentality of sweeping it under the rug, that it's somehow acceptable.

Props to Ace for doing his job as a reporter.

Hoops - All responses welcome. Realistically it probably happens at both pub & private more than reported. I'd imagine it will be on D1 and D12 meetings moving forward.

 

[roxychknpoxy]

I Remeber two years at the state championship they booed pine Richlands band pretty bad and some PCC people told me their band

New strategy.... let's attack the messenger and the message. What "axe" does Ace have to grind?... Really, now you're reaching to defame this man, c'mon man!!
"It's being addressed", by who?, the mayors's office or our brothers at the Union League?

Roxy, you could have been sitting IN the Prep student section and I doubt you would ever hear anything objectionable verbalized from your beloved. Perhaps those cochlear implants need a re-evaluation.

You lose total credibility to suggest this type of behavior is not a frequent occurrence from the Prep student section over the years. In fairness, they're not the only ones. You keep ripping that swim team, never comment on those batted Seals you throw in the water though?


I suppose you'd deny April 13th, 1999 ever occurred as well? Little tougher refuting that one...... Fox, CNN, ESPN and Letterman top 10 had quite a bit of fun with that baby!

Wow ... going there is a reach ... but I will say LS is a nice neighborhood school.

I would admit it if it happened. Did you read the article? Guy is a hack ... there was no chant - DIDN'T HAPPEN

 

[roxychknpoxy]

And get over yourself Rox

Get over what? A slanderous hack? No thanks ... guy is a wanna be Steven A Smith, a real hack with an agenda to create something that didn't happen - a chant is the majority of student section and that didn't happen ... again, the article is written about a chant that nobody heard according to the article ... and nobody on here heard a chant either - it's a shot started by the writer to make a name for himself and perpetuated by another 'axe grinder', typical Chris Matthews stuff.

 

[coverandmove1]

Merry Christmas, happy holidays and new year to all. Was taking in np hoops game last night and LC fans were giving it np Qb with the Reece still fumbled chant Everytime he touched the basketball. Mr udinski looked pale. Guess nowadays you need to have tough skin and be comfortable in your on skin. This is the way of the world now. Jeers OK, personal insults not. Johns was taking some heat to, if I'm them , I'm saying to myself we are going d1 and aa, you're just a spectator. That or throw a tantrum on the bench like Grayson Allen.

 

[yesman3]

Merry Christmas, happy holidays and new year to all. Was taking in np hoops game last night and LC fans were giving it np Qb with the Reece still fumbled chant Everytime he touched the basketball. Mr udinski looked pale. Guess nowadays you need to have tough skin and be comfortable in your on skin. This is the way of the world now. Jeers OK, personal insults not. Johns was taking some heat to, if I'm them , I'm saying to myself we are going d1 and aa, you're just a spectator. That or throw a tantrum on the bench like Grayson Allen.

Pretty brave stuff from the neighboring school who's football team went 3-6 and shutout thrice..

 

[SEPAball]

Actually pretty funny stuff. Limited to play in field. Not racial, sexual, or arrogant. completely what you would expect from a neighborhood rivalry. Cover is right creates thick skin.

 

[statler]

Correct. I was pale....from the 85 degree heat in the top row of that crowded gym. Great atmosphere for local Montco hoops. But not pale from that other nonsense (I leave that up to the LC AD to address if he chooses). Coverandmove1 - why not introduce yourself in person next time and say hi. No need to always comment online behind a screen name.

Yesman3 - loved your reply. Funny.

 

[coverandmove1]

Someday my friend, I'll find you.

 

[green_beans]

Pretty brave stuff from the neighboring school who's football team went 3-6 and shutout thrice..

yesman - What's missing from the 3-6 stat is that LC lost 6 starters by the second game.. with most of the team going both ways (on a 50 man roster).. tough to recover from.. it's much easier when your HS has 1000 gents to choose from

startler - nice to see you can agree with some posts...that talk down to another team but want to call someone out when you don't agree...

 

[green_beans]

Actually pretty funny stuff. Limited to play in field. Not racial, sexual, or arrogant. completely what you would expect from a neighborhood rivalry. Cover is right creates thick skin.

SEPA - I agree as long as it's not what you mentioned above.. all good stuff.. lord I remember some of the chants we did years ago.. nothing racial etc.. but some good ones.. The UGLY cheer.. etc..

 

[Salvucci]

Pretty brave stuff from the neighboring school who's football team went 3-6 and shutout thrice..

Kinda of like a 6-5 team (really 5-6) talking smack all season on social media.....Sepafootballgods is right...

 

[yesman3]

Kinda of like a 6-5 team (really 5-6) talking smack all season on social media.....Sepafootballgods is right...

Welcome to the fray paisano!! We needed another Italian brother on this board, helps promote greater diversification and increased federal dollars to the site.

Have some love in your heart brother.... it's Christmas Eve, we're wrapping gifts for our families and Yes was inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame this week.

Not sure who was talking "smack" about that 6-5 team??.... I'm sure it wasn't Roxy, he seems to be more orally fixated on those Swimming and Diving squads..

 

[green_beans]

Welcome to the fray paisano!! We needed another Italian brother on this board, helps promote greater diversification and increased federal dollars to the site.

Have some love in your heart brother.... it's Christmas Eve, we're wrapping gifts for our families and Yes was inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame this week.

Not sure who was talking "smack" about that 6-5 team??.... I'm sure it wasn't Roxy, he seems to be more orally fixated on those Swimming and Diving squads..

Hate to cross threads here... but what are they talking about... after reading Sepafootballgods... I'm guessing it's an inside joke or a tool for D.A.R.E class to keep kids off drugs

 

[Burrs5]

Just reading this thread.....

The chants absolutely, 100% happened, and it was more than just a few students involved. Now, the game was heavily attended, so maybe a lot of spectators weren't close enough to hear it.

I was right in front of the student section when it occurred. The play was right right in front of the student section when it happened. Basically, towards the end of the 3rd QT on a NP PAT attempt and then shortly thereafter on the FG.

The first two chants lasted about three rotations worth. The last one (sexual reference) lasted twice, but the volume here wasn't as pronounced as the first two.

At least a few NP players heard them, too. After she made the FG a couple of them turned towards student section and waved their arms up as they back-peddled towards their sidelines.

Again, not the end of the world. Just kids trying to be funny. Address it, try your best to make sure it doesn't happen again, and move on.

Personally, I think the article would have been better suited to come out a few days after the game. Not nearly two weeks from the event and after SJP had won a state title. But I'm not sure if there was a reason as to why.