They're not helping!!!

[paul from philly]

First Samantha Bee calls Ivanka Trump the C word on national television. Then Bill Maher states that he hopes the economy goes into a recession to prove Trump wrong. Then, the night before the summit, Bobby D gets all kindergarten by saying "F@ck Trump" at the Tonys. They're not helping their cause with the other 50% of the country.

Then watching Rachel Maddow during the summit, she and Chris Matthews both took the approach, "Now that Trump has given this dictator what he wants, which is a seat at the table of nations....." "Well there won't be any talk of Human Rights on this trip" What does the media want? What does Bobby D want him to do? I think they're just pissed off Trump got Kim to the table and Clinton or Barrack or Scranton Joe or Harry Reid or Nancy couldn't do it.

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

I thought we weren't supposed to worry about political correctness?

It's funny, you're "not a republican", but you never criticize the republicans. Clinton and Obama couldn't get Kim to the table. There were 8 years of Bush in between that. Remember? That kind of just exposes you as a fraud when you do stuff like that. Sorta like Bobby D.

EVERY one of those Presidents could have sat down with Kim and given him legitimacy. There's a reason they didn't.

You do realize that just this week, the Trump administration said there is a special place in hell for Justin Trudeau. And then said Kim Jong Un cares about his people and wants beach front condos.

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

So meanwhile Trump continues to insult and not understand the military. We're ending these "war games". They're expensive. Give ME a military parade instead.

 

[paul from philly]

I thought we weren't supposed to worry about political correctness?

It's funny, you're "not a republican", but you never criticize the republicans. Clinton and Obama couldn't get Kim to the table. There were 8 years of Bush in between that. Remember? That kind of just exposes you as a fraud when you do stuff like that. Sorta like Bobby D.

EVERY one of those Presidents could have sat down with Kim and given him legitimacy. There's a reason they didn't.

You do realize that just this week, the Trump administration said there is a special place in hell for Justin Trudeau. And then said Kim Jong Un cares about his people and wants beach front condos.

You are a moron!! I mentioned the Democratic presidents because of Maddow and Matthews. I'll state it right now. NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAS GOTTEN NK TO THE TABLE. Not Eisenhower. Not Nixon. Not Reagan. Not Bush 1 or 2. The media wants it both ways but they can't have it that way. But you're on board with it. Geez!

You actually are saying you don't like the fact that Trump sat down with him because it legitimizes Kim's regime? Yet you'll be the first to pick up that there are tensions in the pacific rim and it's Donny's fault. What do you want the guy to do? Unemployment is down. The market, whether it's his or Obama's, is still humming. And what's wrong with upsetting Germany, Canada and France. If you look closely to the Iran deal and listen to some of the bipartisan think tanks, they say the deal was bogus to begin with, with all the open ended issues down the road. I am not a Trump man but he is our president for the next few years. I'm not going to beat my chest and cry whoa is us. And when it comes to voting in the mid terms and 2020 elections, I'll vote. And I'll wait and see if all americans, not just Dems or Repubs, but all americans get off their collective azzes and vote. Should be interesting.

LIBERTARIAN 2018!!!

 

[sammyk]

Trump is not helping period. You insult our allies and rub up to dictators and that is not Dem leaning it is a fact. And giving North Korea a voice is a huge mistake. Now if 50% of the country is dumb enough to follow Trumpism then we are already doomed and this is what we get from dumbing down and watching pro wrestling for all those years. Now no one should call someone a cun* but our president does not set a great standard remember his mouth and pu$$y grabbing. History will look back at this point as the beginning of the end of the United States. I think even if Trump were removed today our country is already too far gone. I just hope Canada does not build a wall

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

You are a moron!! I mentioned the Democratic presidents because of Maddow and Matthews. I'll state it right now. NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAS GOTTEN NK TO THE TABLE. Not Eisenhower. Not Nixon. Not Reagan. Not Bush 1 or 2. The media wants it both ways but they can't have it that way. But you're on board with it. Geez!

You actually are saying you don't like the fact that Trump sat down with him because it legitimizes Kim's regime? Yet you'll be the first to pick up that there are tensions in the pacific rim and it's Donny's fault. What do you want the guy to do? Unemployment is down. The market, whether it's his or Obama's, is still humming. And what's wrong with upsetting Germany, Canada and France. If you look closely to the Iran deal and listen to some of the bipartisan think tanks, they say the deal was bogus to begin with, with all the open ended issues down the road. I am not a Trump man but he is our president for the next few years. I'm not going to beat my chest and cry whoa is us. And when it comes to voting in the mid terms and 2020 elections, I'll vote. And I'll wait and see if all americans, not just Dems or Repubs, but all americans get off their collective azzes and vote. Should be interesting.

LIBERTARIAN 2018!!!

You should be a Republican. Don't cite unemployment and markets without noticing the 9 year trend.

Why upset our allies? Do you think Trudeau really deserves a place in hell? Maybe it's karma one of the Trump mouthpieces who said that just had a heart attack. Trump continues to lie. His own governmental agencies show we have a trade surplus with Canada. He's just starting with Trudeau because of his relationship with Obama. Notice, again, Trump didn't say anything to Trudeau while they were face to face. He got on AF1 and started Tweeting. What a p***y.

Does it concern you that our intelligence agencies say Russia will continue to meddle in our elections and the POTUS has not acknowledged their meddling and therefore has not enacted any determent?

 

[paul from philly]

So here's a question for both of you. Considering you have stated that it isn't right to allow Kim at the big boys table, what do you propose to do with the situation on the Korean peninsula. Just rattle sabres for another 50 years and wait for him to develop nuclear capability? Or do you sit down with the guy and work things out. Remember now, sanctions don't work because he'll just starve his people a little more. Tell me what you guys think the president should do with the North Korean situation.

 

[sammyk]

Yea giving a voice to a murdering dictator is always a good idea I mean what could go wrong

 

[paul from philly]

Yea giving a voice to a murdering dictator is always a good idea I mean what could go wrong

You didn't answer the question. All you did was complain again. I'll ask again. What would you do??

 

[sammyk]

The opposite of trump

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Sanctions were working there and in Iran. Besides, remember back in 2012 when you guys lost your sh*t over Obama saying he would talk with NK?

 

[sammyk]

And lost their shi!t over Cuba. At least Trump had nice things to say about the N Korean leader. What a dope

 

[paul from philly]

Sanctions were working there and in Iran. Besides, remember back in 2012 when you guys lost your sh*t over Obama saying he would talk with NK?

So sanctions were working in North Korea? While Kim was shooting missiles over Japan?? You are a putz. And you are part of the overall problem with the country. You said "back in 2012 when you guys lost your sh!t....".
Right there is the problem. You keep saying I'm a Trump guy. So the country is completely divided down the middle....Dems and Pubs. There's no in between ground?? Use your f@ckin' head for once. Things aren't always black and white. OOPs, there I go bringing race into it. And speaking of "You guys lost your sh!t...", I don't remember any Hi profile Hollywood types saying F@ck Obama or calling one of his daughters a c*** on national TV.

By the way you didn't answer the question.

 

[tulla]

So sanctions were working in North Korea? While Kim was shooting missiles over Japan?? You are a putz. And you are part of the overall problem with the country. You said "back in 2012 when you guys lost your sh!t....".
Right there is the problem. You keep saying I'm a Trump guy. So the country is completely divided down the middle....Dems and Pubs. There's no in between ground?? Use your f@ckin' head for once. Things aren't always black and white. OOPs, there I go bringing race into it. And speaking of "You guys lost your sh!t...", I don't remember any Hi profile Hollywood types saying F@ck Obama or calling one of his daughters a c*** on national TV.

By the way you didn't answer the question.

Paul, I agree that DeNiro and Bee were crude and completely objectionable. More coarsening of the culture. But DeNiro and Bee are in show business; Trump wanted to be president when he persisted for years with the birther lie (thus clearly implying that Obama's presidency was illegitimate) and is now continuing his coarseness in office.

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

" I don't remember any Hi profile Hollywood types saying F@ck Obama or calling one of his daughters a c***"

Check out James Woods or Ted Nugent's comments sometime. Remember the Clint Eastwood, empty chair interview at the RNC?

Yes, sanctions were working. Were they 100% no, but things aren't black and white. There is a middle ground.

 

[paul from philly]

" I don't remember any Hi profile Hollywood types saying F@ck Obama or calling one of his daughters a c***"

Check out James Woods or Ted Nugent's comments sometime. Remember the Clint Eastwood, empty chair interview at the RNC?

Yes, sanctions were working. Were they 100% no, but things aren't black and white. There is a middle ground.

I didn't know Ted Nugent called Sasha a c***. And Woods said F@ck Obama on a nationally televised awards show?? Geez where was I? You're bringing Ted Nugent up?? And how did Clint Eastwood degrade the president by speaking to an empty chair. Half of the Republican party didn't know what he was doing.

Now to the sanctions. As you stated they weren't working 100%. Well what percentage were they working? I mean North Korea had just set off their fifth ICB over Japan and the pacific rim. I would put it at 10%.

Ted Nugent? Really?? Try someone who's relevant!!

 

[sammyk]

In the Republican Party Nugent is relevant

 

[paul from philly]

In the Republican Party Nugent is relevant

Pretty good one Sam!!

 

[njfan47]

And lost their shi!t over Cuba. At least Trump had nice things to say about the N Korean leader. What a dope

Sometimes to get things done, you have to say nice things about someone who you despise. Especially when the person on the other end might think the comments are genuine. It's all part of negotiating. People like you might win some battles, but go on to lose the war. Trump usually wins the war, but it might look like he is losing little battles when this scenario is viewed by simpletons who have never negotiated anything.

Incapabama got nothing out of the Cuba deal. There was little negotiating, as he was dealing with his own type of people, Communists. It was more of a love fest. Cuba is a sh*thole, same as Venezuela, and both are run by Communists/Socialists. Amazing that you could think that the Cuban/North Korean cases are even worth bringing up in the same post.

 

[njfan47]

Paul, I agree that DeNiro and Bee were crude and completely objectionable. More coarsening of the culture. But DeNiro and Bee are in show business; Trump wanted to be president when he persisted for years with the birther lie (thus clearly implying that Obama's presidency was illegitimate) and is now continuing his coarseness in office.

Tulla, great to see you posting and I hope you are doing well. But, I am shaking my head when you mention Trump's coarseness, which I just don't see it being anything major when compared to Obama's theft of $100 billion from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shareholders (the greatest theft of all time) and his utter disregard of US bankruptcy and bondholder law in the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies.

 

[sammyk]

Ok NJ let's try umm Ok Hitler was a vegetarian that's good Stallin had a nice mustache it was pretty honcho.
I see the cult of trump is in full swing here can't wait for the kool aid to be passed around. You can't defend this NJ

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Sorry, I should have mentioned Scott Beao who spoke at the Republican National Convention (which coffee boy Paul Mantafort organized).

 

[paul from philly]

Sorry, I should have mentioned Scott Beao who spoke at the Republican National Convention (which coffee boy Paul Mantafort organized).

Scott Baio? Really?? You're comparing Robert DeNiro to Scott Baio. So I guess you put "Joannie Loves Chachi" right up there with "The Godfather"?

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Scott Baio? Really?? You're comparing Robert DeNiro to Scott Baio. So I guess you put "Joannie Loves Chachi" right up there with "The Godfather"?

Hey, you guys had him at your convention. Not me!

I see ChristieFan back with his words of wisdom: " Trump usually wins the war"
Which wars has Trump won since becoming President? He's pulled out of a lot. What deals has he made? What wars has he won? Farmers are starting to see the impacts of tariffs and turning on him. Not good.

 

[paul from philly]

Hey, you guys had him at your convention. Not me!

I see ChristieFan back with his words of wisdom: " Trump usually wins the war"
Which wars has Trump won since becoming President? He's pulled out of a lot. What deals has he made? What wars has he won? Farmers are starting to see the impacts of tariffs and turning on him. Not good.

There you go again! "You guys..."!! Until you realize that there are more opinions than Democrat or Republican, I can't have a discussion with you. Closed minded moron!!

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Call yourself whatever helps you justify things, but you're lockstep with Trump.

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Tulla, great to see you posting and I hope you are doing well. But, I am shaking my head when you mention Trump's coarseness, which I just don't see it being anything major when compared to Obama's theft of $100 billion from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shareholders (the greatest theft of all time) and his utter disregard of US bankruptcy and bondholder law in the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies.

Some people appreciate a President who doesn't go bankrupt. Morally or financially.

 

[paul from philly]

Call yourself whatever helps you justify things, but you're lockstep with Trump.

Right there is the problem and it's you. So everything IS black and white in your world? No tolerance for any other type of idea other than yours? Dems must think this way and Repubs must think that way. You are as bad as Trump, just the other side. You are a close minded putz! Just like Trump!!

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

I'm probably somewhere in the middle. When I say you're in lockstep, that means 100%, so that means no gray.