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SOL National 2023 and Looking Ahead to 2024

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It's been a long time since CB West would consider a 12-1 season a "what might have been" year, but that's how you have to look at 2023. Losing two of your top 5 players heading into the season and then two more top starters at the very start of the playoffs wouldn't have been survivable in most other years, but last year's Bucks had enough to overcome those losses and roll to their first SOL title since 2019. Cooper Taylor (Washington and Lee) replaced Ganz Cooper (ACL) at QB and took the very first play of the season to the house against Garnet Valley. West would run for 350 against the Jags in week zero and give up less than 50 on the ground, finally squeaking out a win after three straight losses to GV. From there, the Bucks weren't really challenged on their way to an undefeated regular season. It took a few weeks to change offensive strategies to get the ball into Conor McFadden's (Navy) hands more often, but once they did, the offense started really rolling, and was backed up by the top defense in the league for the second year in a row. Taylor and Clemens would both run for around 1400 yards. McFadden averaged 16 yards a carry and scored 14 offensive TDs, with two more on defense. He scored roughly every 4th time he touched the ball. AJ Gerace (DT) led the defense which was particularly good up front, with tackle Hayden Mulligan (West Chester) leading the o-line. West was very small again between the tackles (guards averaged 170 pounds) but Coach Gehringer's (and Coach Quedenfeld's) group always plays tough. Heading into the playoffs it certainly looked like another run to the D1 title game was in the cards, with perhaps a better shot at the trophy than in 2022. On the opening kickoff in round one against Cheltenham, McFadden's injury bug struck again and he tore his ACL. He had missed the championship portion of his junior track season with a hamstring injury, where he would have been the odds-on favorite for the 200m state title, and this would cost him his senior track season as well. All-league DE Chris Hutchinson was also lost to a broken hand. West struggled their way through that game but pulled it together enough to advance. GV the next week was a classic, with West bottling the Jags up again inside, with GV adjusting this time, pulling the ball for Q keeps and option pitches. West prevailed in OT, with Taylor scoring 4 times and blocking the GV XP in OT to set up the West win. It's the most emotional win I've seen for the Bucks in recent memory. I think everyone in Doylestown knew that the matchup with South was a very different picture than the near mercy rule in week 9. Bucks held tough through halftime, but a disastrous 5 minutes or so in the 3rd quarter sealed their fate. With the D West upset over D East, they missed a golden opportunity to finally get another D1 title.

CB South would then take care of business vs D West the following week. South was a very different team in 23, running the QB and a two. headed RB attack, rarely throwing the ball. They were big and very physical on both sides of the ball. Goetter (Monmouth) was the leader of a very good OL. It was a pretty big departure from what we've seen from them over the past 5-6 seasons. Pinkerton and Leonardi (West Chester) led the running attack, with Leonardi eventually eclipsing 2000 yards on the season. Jimmy Wade (OLB) was a nice pickup from Arch Wood and the two ILBs (Moscowitz - West Chester) were big and could really hit. Coach Hetrick not only got the "no-playoff wins" monkey off his back, he racked up four straight and South's first district title. For the top teams in the SOL National, it was a pretty good showing against the other leagues with playoff wins over Garnet Valley, Spring-Ford, Coatesville and Downingtown West.

North Penn would struggle for the second year in a row, losing their starting QB to injury and then also their second string at one point. They gave Spring-Ford a run for their money in the playoffs, but that might have said more about Spring-Ford than it did about North Penn. Marc Cobb was a speedster but they never put together enough to challenge West or South.

CB East would have 3 players named to All-State teams, finish 4-6, and miss the playoffs.

Pennsbury remained a tough out but with their stud back graduated they struggled with their offensive consistency. They didn't seem to have a weapon that could break the big play and couldn't sustain drives either... they also lost their best o-lineman (center) to a bad injury against CB West. They did make the playoffs and gave a tough game to an undefeated Souderton squad.

Neshaminy was competitive with the middle of the league, with nice wins against CB East and Pennridge, and a close loss to Pennsbury, but were not competitive against the top teams. Really hard to put your finger on their identity currently.

Pennridge took a step forward under their new staff, but like Neshaminy, are not close to challenging the top teams in the league. Nice win against Pennsbury but otherwise just a year to try to build off of.

Abington brought up the rear and there weren't really any morale victories in their losses.

2024:

CB West: Brings back 3 starting d-linemen, 4 starting o-linemen and the league's top returning back in Clemens. The D-line should be elite, with incredibly fast and athletic ends (Hutchinson and Gerace) but the secondary is a total rebuild. QB will be Noah Miller, who took Cleland's spot at OLB last year so has at least been on the field. Can they develop other skill to replace McFadden's production? Can the QB develop quickly? Biggest question: Can they stay healthy? They've lost 5 starters to ACLs in two seasons, plus two underclassmen. Should be in the top 2-3 of the league again. Coach Rowan has the program firing on all cylinders.

CB South: Pinkerton is back at QB, along with Wade, Bowen, Gies and Micewski. Wade should see touches at RB along with a big kid who got the majority of the carries at the JV level. If one of them develops into a solid back then they will be near the top of the league again.

North Penn: QB Bucksar should be back healthy, and they will have their usual assortment of talent. Numbers just aren't what they used to be, even with the size of the school. Does Coach Beck have one more run in him?

CB East: They have Big Mike Carroll (Alabama) but will be debuting a new QB (who will also play LB like last year's QB), and it's unclear at this point who will take over at RB. Coach Donnelly will look for his first playoff win at East, but even the usual East optimism is fairly muted so far.

Pennridge: Have heard some rumblings that the new staff, even though they made some progress last year, made not be getting the buy-in and commitment they need. They have a very fast returning DB / WR but his eligibility is apparently now in question. QB Keating is back for his third year as a starter and should be one of the best in the SOL. Trevor Fuhs returns at LB / RB.

Neshaminy and Pennsbury: I honestly don't know enough about what they're bringing back at this point. Coach Snyder will have Pennsbury ready to fight no matter what he has, but he needs a stud or two in the backfield to get the offense firing.

Abington: Just fired their head coach after one year. Word is he was treated very poorly. Would expect them to finish in the same spot as they did last year. It's a shame, the talent is there in the school, not sure if the commitment to a good football program is there as well. Signs point to no.
 
Great write-up, as always. A couple things standout, a few questions (if you’ll indulge me!) and a few opinions…

West: arguably the favorites to win the SOL again? I’d put them and South projected 1 and 2. I like west in a playoff rematch due to west’s stout front 7.

South: seemed to have turned a corner. Wood being down has helped them tremendously. I believe Bowes is also a Wood transfer.

East: Donnelly hasn't won a playoff game at East?! I didn’t realize that. Going 4-6 with 3 All-State players is tough. Has that ever been done before?! No way it’s happened in the SOL.

North Penn: your question as to does Beck have one more run left in him…is he considering hanging it up after this year? I like NP to bounce back if they can get the defense to be even average.

Pennsbury: Snyder is a great coach, but the lose of the big FB hurt them. I’m unsure of what they return, but I’d expect an improvement.

Nesh: they are definitely struggling to find their identity. Wilmots last run? They have too many kids to be this average.

Pennridge: curious about your comment on the coach’s commitment. Does he still work in the Lehigh Valley? If so, him not being the building would really hurt. Also, isn’t there a younger Picciotti coming up in the system?

Abington: who’s taking that job at this time of year? You have to feel for the kids, especially the seniors.
 
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Great write-up, as always. A couple things standout, a few questions (if you’ll indulge me!) and a few opinions…

West: arguably the favorites to win the SOL again? I’d put them and South projected 1 and 2. I like west in a playoff rematch due to west’s stout front 7.

South: seemed to have turned a corner. Wood being down has helped them tremendously. I believe Bowes is also a Wood transfer.

East: Donnelly hasn't won a playoff game at East?! I didn’t realize that. Going 4-6 with 3 All-State players is tough. Has that ever been done before?! No way it’s happened in the SOL.

North Penn: your question as to does Beck have one more run left in him…is he considering hanging it up after this year? I like NP to bounce back if they can get the defense to be even average.

Pennsbury: Snyder is a great coach, but the lose of the big FB hurt them. I’m unsure of what they return, but I’d expect an improvement.

Nesh: they are definitely struggling to find their identity. Wilmots last run? They have too many kids to be this average.

Pennridge: curious about your comment on the coach’s commitment. Does he still work in the Lehigh Valley? If so, him not being the building would really hurt. Also, isn’t there a younger Picciotti coming up in the system?

Abington: who’s taking that job at this time of year? You have to feel for the kids, especially the seniors.
I'd say on paper that West and South should be at the top. It'll really come down to the unknowns this time of year, like the young guys no one really knows about at this point being able to contribute.

Yes, Bowen was at Arch Wood originally. Interestingly, South opens with Wood this year. South typically starts the season slow... but if Wood isn't significantly improved, it won't be a close game.

East always has players get accolades that seem to be very generous... but if you really have that many high caliber players, you should win more than 4?

I don't have any info that Beck is considering hanging it up, just wonder if he and / or the school have one more left - major demographic changes and once they are down a couple years, it becomes tougher to keep players from jumping to privates.

Agree on Neshaminy and Pennsbury

Pennridge - not that the commitment isn't there from the coach, more that it's not there currently from the community / school. (At least that's what's being talked about in this area, seems to be struggles within the program again) Should be a consistently good program but it's another school where the school support for the program isn't as strong as it could be and previous staffs weren't able to maximize the talent that they have. Yes, Picciotti younger brother on his way... as is a Blomgren. Same issue with losing kids to LaSalle when the program is down.

Abington - It's really a shame. Every year I see a bunch of athletes on the field but they can't seem to put it all together. Incredibly tough to bring in a coach in late June / July unless they're on the current staff. The more I hear about the current situation, the worse it gets. Parents took out the coach. Very few kids left in the program currently.
 
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I’m surprised to hear numbers are down at North Penn. With the amount of kids they have in the building, they should have JV/Varsity roster at least approaching 100. Neshaminy had over 90 kids on their squad last year. Also, with Gordon taking over at LaSalle, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more kids from NP’s district head over to LaSalle. I believe Gordon lives in that area. Are they playing each other this year?

Pennridge is an interesting case. Isn’t the AD supposed to be a football guy? I’m surprised the school wouldn’t give them more support. Mueller had things going there before he left. That’s another school with plenty of talent.
 
I’m surprised to hear numbers are down at North Penn. With the amount of kids they have in the building, they should have JV/Varsity roster at least approaching 100. Neshaminy had over 90 kids on their squad last year. Also, with Gordon taking over at LaSalle, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more kids from NP’s district head over to LaSalle. I believe Gordon lives in that area. Are they playing each other this year?

Pennridge is an interesting case. Isn’t the AD supposed to be a football guy? I’m surprised the school wouldn’t give them more support. Mueller had things going there before he left. That’s another school with plenty of talent.
I think it's a combination of fewer kids playing football in general and a demographic shift within the district. The roster used to be huge, with duplicate numbers all over the sideline. Those days are over. NP opens with Dtown East this year and Lasalle has Harrisburg.

Wilson can speak to this better than I can, but I think the 2021 season was a big disappointment to the Pennridge faithful who felt that the team had the size and the skill to really make a run. Mueller was definitely not a popular figure in Perkasie when he left after that season. The AD is a CB West football guy but my understanding is that the football budget isn't competitive with other schools in the area, which is probably outside of his control. 2022 was then an unmitigated disaster.
 
Isn’t 2021 the year they went to the district final? Or was that 2020? I would have thought mueller was well liked. I’m surprised to hear that.
 
Isn’t 2021 the year they went to the district final? Or was that 2020? I would have thought mueller was well liked. I’m surprised to hear that.
That was the Covid season, 2020, when only 4 teams made Districts. On paper, many expected Pennridge to handle Souderton in the final but it was the other way around. In 2021 they had high expectations, but went 8-5, losing to West in the first round of districts and finishing third in the league.
 
I believe some of these schools were at the Ursinus 7on7 last Saturday. Did anyone catch that?
 
A salty response for a kid that played there one season.

As for all the motives, I don’t know. But from my perspective, it makes sense for Mike to play against much better comp in preparation for competing for playing time at Bama. Pushing around 5’11, 240 dt’s doesn’t help him much.
 
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Robber, I had the same initial reaction. Didn’t he originally transfer from LaSalle? Coach Donnelly was happy to take him in as a transfer then…
 
Robber, I had the same initial reaction. Didn’t he originally transfer from LaSalle? Coach Donnelly was happy to take him in as a transfer then…
Yes, spent two years at LaSalle and left because he was forced to - he didn't have a choice.
 
How's the film look on the older brother? Offers everywhere, does the game performance match the hype?
 
How's the film look on the older brother? Offers everywhere, does the game performance match the hype?


His junior year highlights. Saw him play live twice and a couple times on East's feed. What stands out is his size and ability to move (on certain plays). There are only so many people who are 6'6"+ and 300+ who can move like he can. He also carries that weight very naturally so you can see him easily becoming 330 pounds once he's at Alabama. What's interesting is that you almost never get to see someone of his size play guard in HS, 95% of the time they're going to be at LT. I think it helped that he was part of a massive line so they had some flexibility with him. So he's got film pulling and running over much smaller OLBs who don't stand much of a chance against him. You also see (obviously not on his highlight reel) that really strong DTs were able to bubble him into the backfield and some tough DEs were able to spill him effectively on his pulls. But the physical ability and size are obviously there. I have no idea if it's taught, or they pick up the habit from each other, but East linemen tend to do a lot of hip tosses once they grab hold of a D-lineman. He had more than his share of those, and then would follow the hip toss with a dive on top of the player. That would often lead to chippy play and he picked up some 15 yard penalties, especially early in the year. Coaches voted him second team all-league.
 
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A salty response for a kid that played there one season.

As for all the motives, I don’t know. But from my perspective, it makes sense for Mike to play against much better comp in preparation for competing for playing time at Bama. Pushing around 5’11, 240 dt’s doesn’t help him much.
I think it makes sense for a couple of reasons - Not sure he could graduate early from East if he had academic trouble at LaSalle, but I'm pretty sure IMG will figure out how to get him his degree by December so he can early enroll at Alabama. He can play against some bigger bodies like you said and really work on his development (every day) while down there. (although he wasn't always pushing around those DTs last year, but you'd expect that his senior year he would really be dominant against smaller opponents)

In terms of the salty reply... if any of the rumors in central bucks are correct, the exit was handled very poorly. East certainly seemed to be pouring a lot into his development but that's an outsider's perspective, so I have no idea what the day to day really looked like. With that said, should Coach Donnelly have kept quiet? Maybe... or he was using his public response to motivate his team and show he had their backs? Only he knows.
 
I think it makes sense for a couple of reasons - Not sure he could graduate early from East if he had academic trouble at LaSalle, but I'm pretty sure IMG will figure out how to get him his degree by December so he can early enroll at Alabama. He can play against some bigger bodies like you said and really work on his development (every day) while down there. (although he wasn't always pushing around those DTs last year, but you'd expect that his senior year he would really be dominant against smaller opponents)

In terms of the salty reply... if any of the rumors in central bucks are correct, the exit was handled very poorly. East certainly seemed to be pouring a lot into his development but that's an outsider's perspective, so I have no idea what the day to day really looked like. With that said, should Coach Donnelly have kept quiet? Maybe... or he was using his public response to motivate his team and show he had their backs? Only he knows.
Yeah, that’s totally fair and makes sense.
 
Does anyone know who is coordinating the defense for North Penn this year? Thx.
 
Great write-up, as always. A couple things standout, a few questions (if you’ll indulge me!) and a few opinions…

West: arguably the favorites to win the SOL again? I’d put them and South projected 1 and 2. I like west in a playoff rematch due to west’s stout front 7.

South: seemed to have turned a corner. Wood being down has helped them tremendously. I believe Bowes is also a Wood transfer.

East: Donnelly hasn't won a playoff game at East?! I didn’t realize that. Going 4-6 with 3 All-State players is tough. Has that ever been done before?! No way it’s happened in the SOL.

North Penn: your question as to does Beck have one more run left in him…is he considering hanging it up after this year? I like NP to bounce back if they can get the defense to be even average.

Pennsbury: Snyder is a great coach, but the lose of the big FB hurt them. I’m unsure of what they return, but I’d expect an improvement.

Nesh: they are definitely struggling to find their identity. Wilmots last run? They have too many kids to be this average.

Pennridge: curious about your comment on the coach’s commitment. Does he still work in the Lehigh Valley? If so, him not being the building would really hurt. Also, isn’t there a younger Picciotti coming up in the system?

Abington: who’s taking that job at this time of year? You have to feel for the kids, especially the seniors.
My skins may make a run for the old coach! If it’s his last go round, maybe the kids and community will show up for em. We can hope.

Pennridge is still a disaster. The common denominator is AD. As long as his hand is in that program, it will continue to underachieve. He is not a football guy by all accounts - contrary to his own opinion. A school that size and they just don’t value competitive football by micromanaging and mismanaging. Sad. Kids with any talent will be lured away to private schools while the AD strokes his ego pretending to be a “football guy.”

Abington is another one. They railroaded the last HC. They’ll continue to be poached by private schools. It amazes me that parents invest so much in their youth sports, but in the wrong way - a self centered way. The team aspect of football is being polluted by flag and 7s leagues that focus on me me me. Parents continue to rip those giving their time and effort to these kids. Who’d wanna be a coach?!

East seems to be heading down. They had their bite of the apple with Shine and underwhelmed in the postseason.

West probably down some too.

Those downward trending teams will probably make Ridge and Neshaminy look deceivingly better than they are this season. That’s HS FB though, right?
 
Isn’t 2021 the year they went to the district final? Or was that 2020? I would have thought mueller was well liked. I’m surprised to hear that.
2020 was the district final year - neither Soudy nor PR wanted what was to follow that game (SJPrep). So there wasn’t much motivation to advance (change the damn playoff structure already!)
Muller was liked by most and had a positive impact. His successor was one of his guys and had community and player support. The leadership (so called) in that district kills football. New super. New principal. Same AD = same outcome.
 
Schmidt may go back to Nesh?! I’d love to see it. I’m sure he’d make them competitive again.
 
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2020 was the district final year - neither Soudy nor PR wanted what was to follow that game (SJPrep). So there wasn’t much motivation to advance (change the damn playoff structure already!)
Muller was liked by most and had a positive impact. His successor was one of his guys and had community and player support. The leadership (so called) in that district kills football. New super. New principal. Same AD = same outcome.
I think it really depends on who you talk to. If Wilson was still posting he'd give you a very, very different opinion on Mueller, which he has on here in the past. I don't know enough of what the AD (CB West alum) is doing there, but there is no denying that they are underperforming.

Looking at the SOL as a whole, I think there are some good teams that are down at least a little from last year, but CB South isn't down that much, and probably has the best roster in the league. Clear favorite. West lost a ton of talent but it's not a complete rebuild so I expect them to still compete near the top. If North Penn is up, are they up enough to beat South? Pennsbury is a bit of a mystery to me, they bring back a few studs but do they have enough to build around them, including a QB and the RBs they need in the wing-T? I don't see Neshaminy or PR being up enough or consistently week to week to really challenge. It's a big leap from where they've been for a few years to beating West, South and North Penn while avoiding being tripped up by Pennsbury, each other and East. There's still enough depth in the league that winning the title means you have to play well in 6 out of 7 weeks. Abington might be the only exception.
 
Schmidt may go back to Nesh?! I’d love to see it. I’m sure he’d make them competitive again.
It would be a tough loss for LaSalle. I've heard he's done wonders teaching, transforming, etc., the o-line there. They are rolling out 5 new starters and I've heard they are already better than last year and the credit goes to Schmidt.
 
Meanwhile ...

Go 'Skins!!

And good luck to Coach Wilmot and the team during his last year at the helm (his 30 years as an assistant or head coach -- and some 360 games or more -- sees him as having been involved with the Tribe for a longer period, and during more games. than any other person).
 
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