private vs public schools

[00shoe]

In the last 20 - 25 years, private schools in PA have upgraded their football programs. At the same time public schools in the PIAA and, specifically District One, have watered down their programs. Private schools are aggressively selling their programs. Not just the PCL but the Interac league, Mid-Atlantic Prep league and PA Independent Athletic Association.

I spoke to an AD at a private school 20 years ago who told me they start selling their kids to colleges at the end of 10th grade. Public school ADs do nothing, they are overpaid, have assistants who do the scheduling, and then the AD collects the paycheck.

There was a time when District One schools took on all comers. At one time, C.B. East played Lasalle & Holycross of NJ and beat them both. C.B. West played PCL schools, mid-state schools , Lehigh Valley schools, etc. Downingtown played Malvern Prep, Salisiumiun, Ryan (when they were good). Today District One is satisfied with having a 16-team playoff and the winner qualifies for the state semifinal and the winner could not beat 10 teams in the PCL, Interac or Mid Atlantic prep league. Downingtown East was a semifinalist this year in District One and got beat by Toms River North 30 to 2.

There are about 500 schools playing football in the PIAA, but the PIAA is ruled by the 450 bottom feeders.

Here is the solution: let players transfer between schools especially districts with more than 1 high school. Bethlehem, Central Bucks, Council Rock, Downingtown. Better teams and competition between public schools.

Even in HS today sports is about money. Coaches are underpaid, head coach should be paid between $25-$30,000 and first assistant $10-$15,000. ADs are overpaid. If they cannot get kids into FBS, FCS schools they should be replaced.

50-60 years ago, when a football coach was hired, he got a job in the school, and they fixed him up with a local bank for a mortgage and new home.

Until public schools decide to sell, any kid with any talent should consider private school.

 

[2020sports]

In the last 20 - 25 years, private schools in PA have upgraded their football programs. At the same time public schools in the PIAA and, specifically District One, have watered down their programs. Private schools are aggressively selling their programs. Not just the PCL but the Interac league, Mid-Atlantic Prep league and PA Independent Athletic Association.

I spoke to an AD at a private school 20 years ago who told me they start selling their kids to colleges at the end of 10th grade. Public school ADs do nothing, they are overpaid, have assistants who do the scheduling, and then the AD collects the paycheck.

There was a time when District One schools took on all comers. At one time, C.B. East played Lasalle & Holycross of NJ and beat them both. C.B. West played PCL schools, mid-state schools , Lehigh Valley schools, etc. Downingtown played Malvern Prep, Salisiumiun, Ryan (when they were good). Today District One is satisfied with having a 16-team playoff and the winner qualifies for the state semifinal and the winner could not beat 10 teams in the PCL, Interac or Mid Atlantic prep league. Downingtown East was a semifinalist this year in District One and got beat by Toms River North 30 to 2.

There are about 500 schools playing football in the PIAA, but the PIAA is ruled by the 450 bottom feeders.

Here is the solution: let players transfer between schools especially districts with more than 1 high school. Bethlehem, Central Bucks, Council Rock, Downingtown. Better teams and competition between public schools.

Even in HS today sports is about money. Coaches are underpaid, head coach should be paid between $25-$30,000 and first assistant $10-$15,000. ADs are overpaid. If they cannot get kids into FBS, FCS schools they should be replaced.

50-60 years ago, when a football coach was hired, he got a job in the school, and they fixed him up with a local bank for a mortgage and new home.

Until public schools decide to sell, any kid with any talent should consider private school.

LOL!!! spot on- love the comment "450 bottom feeders"

 

[steelcurtain55.]

I spoke to an AD at a private school 20 years ago who told me they start selling their kids to colleges at the end of 10th grade. Public school ADs do nothing, they are overpaid, have assistants who do the scheduling, and then the AD collects the paycheck.

I've worked for both private and public. I've never had an athletic director involved in recruiting. My brother has coached at every level in college and never deals with athletic director unless there is no head coach.

I'love to know more about public ADs using their secretary to schedule sporting events lol..

90% of recruiting today is done directly from the college coach and the player due to social media. Head Coaches are seen as unnecessary middle men.

 

[BradlyPitt]

LOL!!! spot on- love the comment "450 bottom feeders"

people said PR didn't want to be good at football anymore and that played into Eric getting fired

they have now won multiple titles without him, so can we now admit that was a lie?

 

[new2pa]

I think more exact wording would be that P-R admin thought Coach K put "too much emphasis on winning."

And, P-R is no where near what it was. The Palmieri-led team was a gift.

To quote a person knowledgable of the team:

"The OL/DL is a bunch of short fat kids and the skill is all from out of district and the coaching staff is a merry-go-round."

Whether that's true or not, that's what it looks like from the outside.

I wouldn't be very surprised if Coach LeDonne's roster composition philosophy will come back to bite him in the butt, in the bubble that is P-R and with the school board composition what is it now - which is exactly opposite of the participation-trophy-society mindset of the last one.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

people said PR didn't want to be good at football anymore and that played into Eric getting fired

they have now won multiple titles without him, so can we now admit that was a lie?

didn't the previous school board get booted? I think that might be your answer as to whether or not the PR community thought the previous group was supportive of winning.

 

[new2pa]

didn't the previous school board get booted? I think that might be your answer as to whether or not the PR community thought the previous group was supportive of winning.

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[bucksftball]

I've worked for both private and public. I've never had an athletic director involved in recruiting. My brother has coached at every level in college and never deals with athletic director unless there is no head coach.

I'love to know more about public ADs using their secretary to schedule sporting events lol..

90% of recruiting today is done directly from the college coach and the player due to social media. Head Coaches are seen as unnecessary middle men.

Most followers of the game don't understand how much the recruiting landscape has shifted to being directly between the players and the recruiting school. Head coaches are consistently bypassed in the process. You can see on Twitter this time of year, coaches from schools (often private) who are the ones "introducing" their players to colleges from an early stage in their careers, now start their posts of "hey college coaches, this senior is a stud but is still looking for a home..."

As far as ADs go, most at larger public schools have assistants that do the scheduling of most games, while the AD deals with budgets, securing out of conference games that have to be negotiated, etc... plus an enormous amount of time dealing with parents complaining about coaches.