With the pandemic and the unemployment so high. I wonder How many kids will be leaving their private or catholic schools to go to sch
Pandemic helping public school football
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Maybe, but there are lots of uncertainties--beginning with whether there will be a high school football season in the whole state and whether there will be parts of the state where there will be and other parts where it won't, What happens if there is a spike in cases in June, July, or August. Schools will be desperate to open, and that desperation may cause them to cancel certain non-essential group activities, e.g., football and soccer games, marching band practices and performances, theater practices and performances, etc.
It's also possible--I'd say likely--that there will be major cuts to school board budgets, and with declining numbers participating in some activities, e.g., football, it wouldn't be surprising if boards cut the more expensive activities first. It will also be interesting what will happen with insurance premiums boards pay for football teams.
Some schools will also likely lengthen the school day to help maintain a certain distance. That could mean some kids finish at, say, 1:30 and others at 4:30. Implications for sport.
But you're right that some kids--maybe many--will have to leave "tuition schools" for public schools and it's very possible some of the tuition schools will have to close.
Look at all that's changed in six weeks. What will be the situation in four months!
The chance of playing high school football next fall is somewhere in between slim and none.
I'm not banking on a fall season. There's too many risks. My wife is in the thick of it all and it's getting worst not better in Delco. Until a vaccine is available (they say January), groups will be at risk. She's not sure she will trust the first round of vaccine.
Its interesting, here in Western Pa the number of cases per day is dropping to well under 10. Last few days its been under 5 from what the Allegheny County department of Heath is posting. Also, 80+% of deaths have been from 70 and older. Most of which came from two nursing homes. Many people I talk to are hopeful we will move to the Yellow Phase today.
https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Health-Department/Resources/COVID-19/COVID-19.aspx
https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Health-Department/Resources/COVID-19/COVID-19.aspx
I've been reading about the vaccine development process, as far a long as they are many in the field still think 12 -18 months would be a miracle. With that said how many parents will be willing to jump in head-first on the first round of a new vaccine. I've been thinking to myself in order to have a season we would need to be out of total lockdown by mid May, maybe the 1st week of June latest. Even when everything opens social distancing is going to remain for at least 3 months? That would being us to starting on Sept. 1 for a shortened season? Even then there will be a fear (administratively) of passing on the virus or rejuvenating it along with poss. Legal ramifications. Band had much more control over the "rules" or precautions to minimize the risk. All things considered this country did a good job following guideline and this thing is still going strong......
I think it will have to result in some families making the decision to go back to the district school. If tge player is goid enough programs with strong boosters will find $. On the ither side of that i worry some kids from less fortunate families may be forced to work or take care of younger siblings due to a parent(s) having to take on more hours. Uncertian times for our sport will become even more uncertain as a result of the Virus. Let's hope for the best.
I share your hope.
Given all the uncertainties, any speculations we make in the next month or so are just that. And even if things steadily improve for the next few months, all it will take is a significant return of the virus in August or September for fall sports to be shut down. Even if vaccine development exceeds everyone's expectations, only healthcare workers and those at greatest risk could possibly get it before 2021.
Great insights. I think it is early to say but as of now doesn’t look good for the fall season. I sure hope I am wrong. But to me it sounds like schools are preparing to start the next school year online. So if the kids aren’t in school I find It hard to believe extracurricular activities will go on
Food for thought : you are a 16/17 year old kid that will be a senior this September. You are an above average player , with several feelers from colleges , but nothing definite yet. Your high school decides to start the year as a cyber school , and all fall sports are cancelled. Student opts not to enrol in the cyber school, in effect ‘ dropping out’. By September 2021,we have a grip on the virus , testing is everywhere , schools are open and in session , fall sports are back. Kid enrols back for his senior year , is now 17/18 years old ( under the PIAA age limit )and wants to play football. ( This is a real strategy being discussed at some schools ). What does the PIAA do ? The NCAA is giving all spring athletes an extra year of eligibility. That most like,y wil be extended to this fall if no sports. Should a high school kid have the same options ?
If my son were in that situation I'd advise against dropping out for a year. Both high school players and their parents tend to over- rather than under-estimate their chances of playing at the next level and getting a scholarship to do so. So if all he has is vague feelers ... More important, by staying out a year he'd be taking a real risk with his academic progress. You're more likely to do well in 12th grade math if you'd done 11th grade math the previous year--not well over a year previous. The same goes for many other subjects--science, language, etc. Also switching graduation classes may have some unwanted social consequences. And then there's always more than a tiny chance that the kid gets a bad injury in August or September of 2021 that pretty much ends his season and thus any chance of making those feelers more than feelers. In short, too big a risk for an unlikely big reward.
Not sure how it would work. Piaa gives student athletes 4 years from 8th grade. Not sure what they would do for a kid dropping out. It would have to go to a waiver process. But if they don’t have a season how can they count that against the student.
Why not have all sports next spring with an adjusted short schedule. Sounds a little crazy, but reality is not the same as it was.
Yeah that's a tough call that could too easily backfire. Could they go to school in the fall of 2020 then drop the spring to come back in the fall 2021 or just make it that they dont take the full course load making them short on credits?
Even more complicated, a situation that I think is more realistic what if all counties but 5 (Delco, Montco. Chestco, Bucksco Philaco.) Are back in school in Sept. ?
Even more complicated, a situation that I think is more realistic what if all counties but 5 (Delco, Montco. Chestco, Bucksco Philaco.) Are back in school in Sept. ?
Possibly go back to school.in Oct/ November and extend the year to July? That may leave room for an 8 game season maybe they pass on the playoff seasons. At least the kids get the season in and keep their bodies (somewhat) on pace for a ccollegiate season. Colleges could maybe have a spring camp for incoming freshmen only as a "tryout" camp. There has to be a way to make it right...
With all that said, I'm having a hard time keeping my motivation level up as far as football goes with this online meeting business / no workouts. Imagine being a 1st year HC during all this - geez that must be tough? We had a month of workouts in and things were moving along as normal than it just got cut off!
I heard schools are thinking about summer classes. I don't think they have enough time to pull it off. It would be good for underclassmen no travel vacations in site.
Unfortunately you're right. Schools are making plans to change the school setting upon reopening. Even if school is back in the fall there's no way they let 60 sweaty, germy kids in a locker room together.
I am Being told we may see football back as early as July 1. Still don’t know the plans to keep kids safe at practice. What games will look like( fans, no fans, coaches limited on the sidelines) also potential season openers pushed back a week.
There is a thread about this on the BWI board. From what I read, it doesn't sound encouraging.
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...ediately-in-pennsylvania.269956/#post-4911672
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...ediately-in-pennsylvania.269956/#post-4911672
I don’t think it is discouraging... it’s discouraging from the fact that things will look different and be logistically harder. From what I understand no state is following the NFHS guidelines. Basically what has happened is the Governor passed the liability buck to the PIAA, the PIAA passed the liability buck to the schools... Now the schools are panicked, what you will see is the schools pass the buck onto the parents in terms of Covid liability sign offs, and a larger transportation responsibility.