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Last night Radnor School Board voted to retire the Raider name and mascot. Heard Unionville did the same not to long ago. Think these are the first of many changes? Any opinions on this?
 
From the land of Red Rovers, Konkrete Kids, and Canaries, seems like a perfect opportunity to get a cooler, more unique nickname.
 
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Ridiculous!!! Why people are caving is such a pussy move. I’m so close to being done with all sports period. All a bunch of liberal hypocrites.
 
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I'll give you Redskins. Personally I never thought it was derogatory but I'm not an indian. What I do have a problem with is the Cleveland Indians. So what? The Florida State Seminoles. Where is there a problem with that? The Fighting Illini of the Univerity of Illinois?? My sons used to play for the Lenape Valley Indians in youth sports. What is so wrong with that name? I don't get it. Being Irish should I be upset that Notre Dame has a leprachaun as it's mascot or their name is The Fighting Irish? Come on people!!!
 
I'll give you Redskins. Personally I never thought it was derogatory but I'm not an indian. What I do have a problem with is the Cleveland Indians. So what? The Florida State Seminoles. Where is there a problem with that? The Fighting Illini of the Univerity of Illinois?? My sons used to play for the Lenape Valley Indians in youth sports. What is so wrong with that name? I don't get it. Being Irish should I be upset that Notre Dame has a leprachaun as it's mascot or their name is The Fighting Irish? Come on people!!!
Paul, One big difference between The Notre Dame Fighting Irish and, say, the The Cleveland Indians is that Notre Dame has always had a lot of Irish Americans who, at the very least, went along with the nickname, the leprechaun, etc. My bet is that most of the leprechauns down the years have been Irish-Americans. On the other hand, I highly doubt any actual Indians were involved in the naming of the baseball team in Cleveland, in the design of the logo, etc. This is not a huge issue for me, but I think it's useful to note the difference.
 
Paul, One big difference between The Notre Dame Fighting Irish and, say, the The Cleveland Indians is that Notre Dame has always had a lot of Irish Americans who, at the very least, went along with the nickname, the leprechaun, etc. My bet is that most of the leprechauns down the years have been Irish-Americans. On the other hand, I highly doubt any actual Indians were involved in the naming of the baseball team in Cleveland, in the design of the logo, etc. This is not a huge issue for me, but I think it's useful to note the difference.

Tulla, the Chief Wahoo logo has been gone for while. I'm just referring to the name Indians. And the Atlanta Braves, Chicago Blackhawks, Kansas City Chiefs. Not one of those nicknames is offensive, I don't think. But, again, I'm not a Native American.
 
Why don’t we get rid of all mascots in general. HS, college and pros. Or maybe just assign teams numbers. That way no one can possibly be offended.

Hey Rover, cross your fingers that some wacko PETA member doesn’t get a hair up their ass and decide “Red Rovers” is mean and misrepresents the breed.
 
If you look at the people behind the Radnor issue , there were ZERO Native American’s pushing for the change. Granted , there may be ZERO Native Americans living in Radnor, but there was no data presented showing any one of that particular race objected to the name. I think it is interesting that in school districts that are much more mobile , transient , affluent , etc (Radnor , Unionville) this was a bigger issue than in school districts that are more generational , blue collar ( Coatesville, Ridley ) .
 
Tulla, the Chief Wahoo logo has been gone for while. I'm just referring to the name Indians. And the Atlanta Braves, Chicago Blackhawks, Kansas City Chiefs. Not one of those nicknames is offensive, I don't think. But, again, I'm not a Native American.
Paul, Actually ... many Native Americans/Indigenous people are rejecting being called Indians--Columbus was wrong about where he landed!--and I don't know who invented "Braves." With the Blackhawks I think the issue is more with the logo. Remember when we were young and "colored people" (as in NAACP) was the correct or polite term? Life continues to evolve, mostly for the better, but sometimes the pace picks up.

On another note: do you think the terrible death of Isaiah Turner will make it even harder for LaSalle to play football this fall? I can't see the Prep playing if LaSalle doesn't
 
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That's why I said "Native American" at the end.

As far as La Salle goes, that's all above my pay grade anymore. I would think with the trgic death of Turner and just how screwed up 2020 has been, maybe it would be best to shut it down. But there are players with futures out there so I'm not gonna be the one to tell them "pack it up"!
 
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Hey Rover, cross your fingers that some wacko PETA member doesn’t get a hair up their ass and decide “Red Rovers” is mean and misrepresents the breed.

Fun fact, not actually named after bulldogs. Easton was just the “Red and White” in the 1920s, but were one of the only teams to play a statewide schedule under head coach James Reilly. The Easton Express became fond of saying “Reilly’s Red roving across the state” which the Express shortened to Reilly’s Red Rovers - which the school newspaper picked up in the early ‘30s and got adopted by the athletic department. The bulldog logo came in when they wanted to put something on shirts they were selling, and the principal thought a dog was the best physical representation of Rover.

The cooler origin story is Canaries. Allentown and the Bethlehem were obviously rivals, and Allen named themselves the Canaries because it is the only bird that can safely fly through a hurricane (Bethlehem Liberty’s long-standing nickname).
 
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