LaSalle vs PCC Week 0?

[new2pa]

Funny thing - Walker coached for Palko way back and Palko effectively used QB run from Wildcat to beat SJP. But they also had that little kid at QB who could make plays with his arm. NA 23 didn’t have that option IIRC. PCC definitely didn’t have that in 24.

 

[2020sports]

but they always use the excuse for going to private school that academics are a reason they go there

Peters has two kids going to Stanford and neither one of them looked anything special in the 5 Peters games I saw last year, especially in the PR game where I would argue both looked terrible, the one that just committed within the past day doesn't even look like a D2 kid to me, he's just "tall" and some colleges seem to think that automatically means "potential"

they have another kid with big offers from all over the country, and he was arguably just as invisible as they were, but he too is "tall" and he is more recruited than any of the recent Central kids

so you think Colson Gatten had to go to Central to get noticed instead of staying at Peters?

you don't need to go to private school to get recruited by colleges

you are correct, these kids do not "need to go to private schools." But, usually they are better off. My point, is it's a lower risk, It's a lower gamble to go there- they have a much better track record than every local public school- I'm talking about the "best" kids, Power 4. I'm not sure what you mean that the Peter's kid was "recruited more" than the Central kids is just not true. I'm not a Central booster, or alum, i dont "love them" but they put more kids in big schools, it's really no debate.

In many ways, public/local is better, especially for the "average" or even the "good athletes," which is why i am talking about the 1%, the best kids. Private schools have less rules, more flexibility, which makes it easier for college recuiting. It is very diffcult to build and maintain a successful public school football program in western PA- that is why there are so few of them. Butler, Woodland Hills, Gateway, Lebo, North Hills, even USC- these are schools that "used to be great" and really are no longer- this is why they "lose kids" to transferring. This happens due to shaky coaching, or shaky resources, or a combination.

And again, the "payoff" is now real money, as soon as they graduate high school.

 

[2020sports]

Funny thing - Walker coached for Palko way back and Palko effectively used QB run from Wildcat to beat SJP. But they also had that little kid at QB who could make plays with his arm. NA 23 didn’t have that option IIRC. PCC definitely didn’t have that in 24.

agree- but id argue maybe Palko is just a better coach than Walker!! Walker plays checkers, Palko plays chess. My guess is Palko had spent 2 years building and preparing to beat SJP in 2021

 

[2020sports]

The 23 team had all the talent in the world and couldn’t stop QB power. I thought that was one of Art Walkers best coaching jobs.

IMO the flaws of PCC in 2023 was a reflection of new coaching- that was the first year of the new staff- tough to put all the pieces together, in like 8-9 months

 

[northalleghenytiger]

I wonder how much truth there was about palko and the central catholic HC job a few years ago

 

[2020sports]

I wonder how much truth there was about palko and the central catholic HC job a few years ago

very likely true- he prob asked them for a full time job/big salary, they said no, and that's why he went to penn state- he is a good guy and a great coach- but he has done that before

 

[BradlyPitt]

The 23 team had all the talent in the world and couldn’t stop QB power. I thought that was one of Art Walkers best coaching jobs.

yes but I was actually referring to Ethan Pillar

 

[BradlyPitt]

you are correct, these kids do not "need to go to private schools." But, usually they are better off. My point, is it's a lower risk, It's a lower gamble to go there- they have a much better track record than every local public school- I'm talking about the "best" kids, Power 4. I'm not sure what you mean that the Peter's kid was "recruited more" than the Central kids is just not true. I'm not a Central booster, or alum, i dont "love them" but they put more kids in big schools, it's really no debate.

In many ways, public/local is better, especially for the "average" or even the "good athletes," which is why i am talking about the 1%, the best kids. Private schools have less rules, more flexibility, which makes it easier for college recuiting. It is very diffcult to build and maintain a successful public school football program in western PA- that is why there are so few of them. Butler, Woodland Hills, Gateway, Lebo, North Hills, even USC- these are schools that "used to be great" and really are no longer- this is why they "lose kids" to transferring. This happens due to shaky coaching, or shaky resources, or a combination.

And again, the "payoff" is now real money, as soon as they graduate high school.

Reston Lehman has big offers from everywhere across the country, Peters was always below average in football until 2018 now they regularly have prospects including kids that I don't think are good enough for the next level

Central puts more kids in big schools simply because those kids choose to go there, not because Central has some "secret sauce" that turns these kids into prospects

aside from maybe Butler I don't think there is any proof those schools are lacking resources or anything at all, USC and Lebo aren't lacking anything other than just not having the horses on a consistent basis, Woodland Hills lost a ton of enrollment but it probably doesn't help they choose to play up 2 classes

North Hills has been killed by transfers, Gateway used to benefit more than anybody from transfers in the mid to late 2000's

it's normal to have down years, it's not normal to be in the title game every year for a decade+ ie Central, PR etc the teams that don't have down years are bending the rules and getting transfers

 

[BradlyPitt]

very likely true- he prob asked them for a full time job/big salary, they said no, and that's why he went to penn state- he is a good guy and a great coach- but he has done that before

yeah everybody says he's a good guy, seems like a bit of a phony to me