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Is 16 teams too many teams to start the play odds?

green_beans

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With some of the lopsided scores do you think that 16 teams is the right number for D1 playoffs? Should a team need at least say 7 wins??
 
Every district has the same issues with watered down playoffs. I don't see it changing. In D1 if they cut it to 8 teams, then three 8-2 schools would have been left out at the 6A level.

I like that Pennridge got rewarded for playing a difficult schedule (lots of power points). They faced 6 playoff teams and 3 of those went undefeated. Cut the number to 8 and it will discourage coaches and AD's from scheduling quality opponents early in the season.
 
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Good points either way.

Thinking about this issue, and as a starting point, is that it is high school football. And with high school ball probably representing the last chance that 99% (??) of the male population has to participate in the greatest game (at least in an organized setting) I don't think letting some teams and kids have a last moment is necessarily that bad (even though it might be boring for the fans I will admit).

Of course, the other side of the coin is that as PA just went to six classes and opened the whole system up by adding (in essence and across the state) 128 teams additional to the playoff process (64, more or less, in each new class and I hope my math is right on all of this).

So now that we have six classes starting off with 64 teams that's 384 teams in all. And I believe PA has a little over 600 or so high schools fielding squads (is that right??) and with 384 of them participating in post-season play that's about 63% of the universe as available getting at least one extra game. Hmmm - I think that's too many and perhaps six classes with 32 a piece, or 192 which is about 32%, might be about right (and if each team has about 20 seniors on average that means between 3,800 and 4,000 still get one extra go-around).

If that did that (the PIAA) they could go back to a 15 game season which would include 10 regular season games and then 5 post-season contests (if you make the final in Hershey). The season could start on the date it normally did (the first weekend in September -- I believe) and then teams could also go back to two scrimmages. The counter-point here would be with only 32 teams in six classes (192 teams) that's less than the "old days" of 4 classes with 64 teams or 236 teams (if the objective is to let more kids play a little longer).

At the end of the day you either have six classes with 384 teams or six classes with 32 teams and 192 teams (if my math and estimates are correct). Considering the PIAA just decided that bumping it up from 236 teams to 384 (and adding the two classes to make it more fair, I suppose) that isn't something you'd think they would be doing in the near term.

What do the big brains out there say??
 
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Good points either way.

Thinking about this issue, and as a starting point, is that it is high school football. And with high school ball probably representing the last chance that 99% (??) of the male population has to participate in the greatest game (at least in an organized setting) I don't think letting some teams and kids have a last moment is necessarily that bad (even though it might be boring for the fans I will admit).

Of course, the other side of the coin is that as PA just went to six classes and opened the whole system up by adding (in essence and across the state) 128 teams additional to the playoff process (64, more or less, in each new class and I hope my math is right on all of this).

So now that we have six classes starting off with 64 teams that's 384 teams in all. And I believe PA has a little over 600 or so high schools fielding squads (is that right??) and with 384 of them participating in post-season play that's about 63% of the universe as available getting at least one extra game. Hmmm - I think that's too many and perhaps six classes with 32 a piece, or 192 which is about 32%, might be about right (and if each team has about 20 seniors on average that means between 3,800 and 4,000 still get one extra go-around).

If that did that (the PIAA) they could go back to a 15 game season which would include 10 regular season games and then 5 post-season contests (if you make the final in Hershey). The season could start on the date it normally did (the first weekend in September -- I believe) and then teams could also go back to two scrimmages. The counter-point here would be with only 32 teams in six classes (192 teams) that's less than the "old days" of 4 classes with 64 teams or 236 teams (if the objective is to let more kids play a little longer).

At the end of the day you either have six classes with 384 teams or six classes with 32 teams and 192 teams (if my math and estimates are correct). Considering the PIAA just decided that bumping it up from 236 teams to 384 (and adding the two classes to make it more fair, I suppose) that isn't something you'd think they would be doing in the near term.

What do the big brains out there say??
Skinner,you have too much time on your hands. Hope your skins do well in the playoffs.
 
Romeo -

Ha - I think I'm avoiding all the things I am supposed to be doing by hanging out on football Boards.
 
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