Private schools in state championships

[Burgundynewz]

Let's recall that the western part of the state had been sending these types of teams for years. What is Erie Cath. Prep.?

Also the lehigh valley has also been doing it for years. Beca acc

Philly is just doing it better

 

[ptomaselli]

Don't forget Pittsburgh Central Catholic.

 

[Relayer]

or North Catholic who just won the single A championship last year. I guess that one must have slipped elcato's mind.

 

[tulla]

Some perspective about the whole issue would help.

When the vast majority of Catholic schools play public school teams, there is little or no talk of uneven playing fields. Any sound of it when NG played Dunmore or in relation to yesterday's 1A game? Does anyone talk of Lansdale Catholic's or Archbishop Carroll's big advantage? We heard very little about it, as I recall, when two District 1 teams beat LaSalle in Eastern finals. The topic is really about two teams (SJP and AW), which I would argue are really quite different from one another. SJP never takes a senior transfer, very rarely takes a junior transfer, and only infrequently accepts a sophomore. I would also argue that SJP football players don't come from places where other SJP students don't live. I'm not sure that is true for AW. When I was at SJP we had students--non-sports players--who came in every day from Reading and Trenton. SJP's location makes all this possible. (None of this is to attack AW. I'm just arguing that the two situations are very different.)

As for Delaware, SJP has never had more than a few students in all four years who live in the first state. The day there are three Delaware kids on the team is the day I'll think something has really changed.

 

[ptomaselli]

Originally posted by tulla:
Some perspective about the whole issue would help.

When the vast majority of Catholic schools play public school teams, there is little or no talk of uneven playing fields. Any sound of it when NG played Dunmore or in relation to yesterday's 1A game? Does anyone talk of Lansdale Catholic's or Archbishop Carroll's big advantage? We heard very little about it, as I recall, when two District 1 teams beat LaSalle in Eastern finals. The topic is really about two teams (SJP and AW), which I would argue are really quite different from one another. SJP never takes a senior transfer, very rarely takes a junior transfer, and only infrequently accepts a sophomore. I would also argue that SJP football players don't come from places where other SJP students don't live. I'm not sure that is true for AW. When I was at SJP we had students--non-sports players--who came in every day from Reading and Trenton. SJP's location makes all this possible. (None of this is to attack AW. I'm just arguing that the two situations are very different.)

As for Delaware, SJP has never had more than a few students in all four years who live in the first state. The day there are three Delaware kids on the team is the day I'll think something has really changed.

I think AW's kids are from its very nearby districts like Hatboro-Horsham and Bensalem. Hardly unusual in the world of catholic schools. Bishop Shanahan gets lots of Coatesville, Downingtown and West Chester kids. PJP2 (Dist 1) gets lots of Spring-Ford, OJR, Perk Valley kids. Holy Redeemer gets lots of Wilkes-Barre Area, Crestwood kids. People only have a cow when the catholic school takes their lunch money. When it's the other way around its OK by the publics. The publics are glad to have a mail-it-in "W" on the schedule.

Folks that don't win are always at the ready with any number of excuses...and this one is high on the menu.

 

[PennStateNate]

Originally posted by Relayer:
or North Catholic who just won the single A championship last year. I guess that one must have slipped elcato's mind.

And.. I was against it. It's not about East or West, they have a big advantage today,

 

[Demodick]

I feel it evens the field having open enrollment teams
Piaa has 4 football divisions
A-AAAA. The first 3 go from 0-492 ? Boys grades 9-11. In order to
Give teams with less boys an even playing field
But then it goes 492? To over 1500!
So if there is going to be 3 division in the first 492 boys level to
Make it fair. How can you justify having 1500 kids and your opponent
Have only 500?
If teams that have more then 1000 kids are going to
Whine about recruiting practices maybe they should look in
Mirror. If fairness is truly their concern

Piaa needs 1 more classification 5A or Superprep,Max Prep
Whatever you want to call it
Take all the teams that have open enrollment ,Recruit,Whatever you want
To call it. Then take all teams with enrollment numbers over. I don't know,Let's say
700 boys. Put them in 1 division. Eliminate the East vs West

I heard to much whining sat from my fellow Pennsbury alumni and parents
At sat game
About St Joes prep and recruiting.
Didn't seem to bother them when we played
Garnet Valley and their 566 boys 9-11.
That's not really fair
If it was. Why do we have the first 3 divisions?
Pennsbury has almost 3 times the amount
Of potential players as Garnett Valley or even
Upper Dublin who has 569?

I'm not trying to pick on Pennsbury here. Which
I know a lot of other posters here will think.
N Penn is even bigger. Nesh is just as big

So in a small way I feel
People in glass houses maybe shouldn't throw stones

Piaa. Either eliminate first 3 classes(stupid)
Or add 1 more.
Btw that would mean arch wood ,Imhotep ,
Would have some competition

 

[elcato]

no but

But glad you are such a tool. Anyway I stated the end of public school football plain and simple that includes all private schools douche bag

 

[LS9er]

La Salle will accept a kid from anywhere OUT OF EIGHTH GRADE, providing they pass the entrance exam and afford the tuition. Once that kid enrolls elsewhere, it's hands off from La Salle's point of view. Pretty sure SJP's philosophy is similar. ABW is taking kids from other high schools regardless of their grade level. It doesn't matter how close the other districts are. Wood had two players that I know of, Arcangeli and a kid from CBW who transferred in as seniors. This practice would stop if those two kids were forced to sit out one year.

This post was edited on 12/13 9:08 PM by LS9er

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Two friend's kids were "looked at" by AW in middle school CYO football games. Sad.

Another guy I know has kids at HGP and Penn Charter. I know that family can't afford $18,000 and $32,000 for high school. Both are stud athletes.

I know for a fact #12 didn't pay a penny at while at CEC.






This post was edited on 12/13 9:06 PM by reluctant_to_comment

 

[ptomaselli]

Originally posted by reluctant_to_comment:
Two friend's kids were "looked at" by AW in middle school CYO football games. Sad.

Another guy I know has kids at HGP and Penn Charter. I know that family can't afford $18,000 and $32,000 for high school. Both are stud athletes.

I know for a fact #12 didn't pay a penny at while at CEC.






This post was edited on 12/13 9:06 PM by reluctant_to_comment

As long as the family's current on the property taxes what do you care what they pay for school. I guess its wrong to want something better for your kids. They should be playing for their neighborhoods. Yeah, right.

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Or not paying for school.

 

[ptomaselli]

Originally posted by reluctant_to_comment:
Or not paying for school.

Jealous much? haha

 

[reluctant_to_comment]

Not at all, just pointing out the recruiting that goes on. If my kid was an honor student there paying full price I might have some questions.

 

[ptomaselli]

Originally posted by reluctant_to_comment:
Not at all, just pointing out the recruiting that goes on. If my kid was an honor student there paying full price I might have some questions.

If your honor student got as much positive press for the school as the football team does, he/she would be worthy of a scholarship.