NOT SURE BEST TEAM WON
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Let's face it. I think there were a. number of people on this board that never gave NP a chance in this game for whatever reason. Obviously they were wrong. If these teams played ten times what do you think the record would be?
NP gets a lack of respect from MOST of the PCL faithful. They will be back!
NP gets a lack of respect from MOST of the PCL faithful. They will be back!
North Penn gets a lack of respect, by whom? I know SJP was worried and did not take them lightly.
Tell me I'm wrong, but don't/didn't the play of SJP cause/force the turnovers? I believe that's part of the game. At the end of the day two really good teams were playing last night. SJP was never once losing this year in the 2nd half and I believe the same can be said for North Penn. They both were resilient!
Yes, Swift did lose a 50-yard TD run on SJP's 2nd possession in the first quarter. Also, right before that SJP lost a good portion of 59-yard pass on a screen to Jones. The play started at SJP 33 and ended on NP 8. A holding downfield at the NP 40 brought the back to midfield. The play still went for 27 yards, but only a net of 17. Swift went 50 on next play and that was negated by illegal formation.
But guess what? SJP still scored on that possession. Ten plays later Swift went 28 yards. IMO, the lost TD really only matters if a team doesn't go onto score.
That was a crazy SJP possession. They ran 15 plays. They overcame 4 penalties, plus the personal foul on Carr's INT that started the drive. All total, 45 yards in penalties. They also converted a 3rd-3, a 3rd-4, and a 4th-3 from the NP 24.
Can anyone explain Infante not taking a knee twice with 1:15 or so on clock, rather than swift run down to the one and take chance of injury or even at one yard line plunging it in and giving ball back to np at all? Point spread on this one, Infante need some more money in his pocket or taking shot at beck.
I believe there was more than 1:15 left on clock after SJP got the first down. However, it was right on the cusp of them being able to exhaust the clock with 3 knees. I don't think the plan was for Swift to run 58 yards to the one. I think they were making sure and were probably going to evaluate after the next play. Well, he went 58 to one.
Now, they absolutely took a risk once they got there. Was it the safest way to conduct business at that point? Probably not. However, in my experience, most teams would go for score up 3 and on 1-yard line. Again, probably not the safest course of action, IMO. Especially, when you consider what is at stake.
Generally, I didn't have a problem with the play. It wasn't a malicious act. Still, I could only imagine the world of hurt the SJP faithful would be feeling this morning if they would have mishandled a snap/exchange and NP scoops and goes. Or, Swift flies over the top and takes a helmet to knee or is flipped and lands on a shoulder. Just saying...
Now, they absolutely took a risk once they got there. Was it the safest way to conduct business at that point? Probably not. However, in my experience, most teams would go for score up 3 and on 1-yard line. Again, probably not the safest course of action, IMO. Especially, when you consider what is at stake.
Generally, I didn't have a problem with the play. It wasn't a malicious act. Still, I could only imagine the world of hurt the SJP faithful would be feeling this morning if they would have mishandled a snap/exchange and NP scoops and goes. Or, Swift flies over the top and takes a helmet to knee or is flipped and lands on a shoulder. Just saying...
My god you guys are unbelievable. Listen to yourselves. "Taking a shot at Beck".
Were they up 40 at the time???
For the love of God! NP gave up a KO for TD. SJP didn't earn it? NP turned over the ball. SJP didn't force those? NP would match up better against PCC, a team SJP has beaten handily in the past.
You're a bigger poor loser than me!
Hey cyo ball, do you know the history , do you know what was said post game, I do. That td makes no sense, 42 secs, left first and goal from one, 1 knee and it's over but you risk hand off, injury, fumble return for td, remember prep neshaminy , 96 yard return by prep for td. Wasn't smart by a very good coach. That's all I'm saying..
Again, it might not have been the best decision when you consider the risk. Tho, odds of disaster are low. I just don't think it had anything to do with taking a shot a Beck or NP.
Thank You ! It just wasn't NP on the that field that Prep was up against last night.
I never said the penalties weren't warranted.
Also, SJP led 7-0 after 1st QT. It was 6-1 penalties. So, for the final 3 quarters it was 6-to-6 in penalties. And it was 3-2 in favor of SJP in "judgement" calls after 1st QT.
With that said, these officials are brought in from other districts. They do t know the teams. They won't have to listen to coaches ever again. They probably have assignors evaluating them. So, IMO they call things a bit tight. Same thing in Wood/AP game the night before. They called a lot of penalties and a ton early.
Just keep it simple and call the obvious fellas. I feel far too often outside crews go hunting for penalties to validate themselves gettingba big game and because they are unfamiliar with the teams, and won't have to deal with them again.
I was one who thought Prep would have an easier time. Give credit to North Penn-Beck had them ready and cemented himself as the best coach around, bar none.
#7 is a special football player-kudos to him.
Everyone on the board said turnovers would dictate the outcome, and they did.
Congrats to both teams-best $8 I have spent in a long time.
#7 is a special football player-kudos to him.
Everyone on the board said turnovers would dictate the outcome, and they did.
Congrats to both teams-best $8 I have spent in a long time.
Huck, what did you think of the blocking in the back call against Swift? It looked like a cheesy call to me--yes contact, but it was minimal and didn't affect the play. From where I was sitting I couldn't tel about the holding calls on the Jones screen and on the next to last Prep possession but they were big calls, especially the latter.
About the decision not to take a knee at the end: the Prep took the knee against Bosco, against Judge, and the week before against Parkland. I think what happened last night was that the situation at the one arose very unexpectedly and whoever was calling the plays didn't give it a thought or enough of a thought. If Swift doesn't go in the first time, I think they take the knee on the next and final play.
Tulla, from my vantage point, I was behind the play, I thought it was a good call. To me it looked like Swift got him slightly in the back. Also, it was an unnecessary block anyway. Simmons was slightly ahead of the play.
Also, SJP still got a first down on the play and had a 1-10 at their 44-yard line. Sure, they lost 20 or so yards of field position, but it's not like the call made it 1-20 or something like that.
Also, SJP still got a first down on the play and had a 1-10 at their 44-yard line. Sure, they lost 20 or so yards of field position, but it's not like the call made it 1-20 or something like that.
Not to toot my own horn, if np scores there and wins 32-28, my np 31-30 final score looks pretty damn good and man I'm thirsty, lol. Was I the only one to pick np? Either way, I'm still exhausted from that game, kudos to both teams, and players who left it out on the field. Next week's game should be a classic also, giving pcc the edge right now, 35-24.
Slight contact ... behind the play ... Those are the reasons I thought the call was a bad one. And field position at that point in the game was very big.
But, I know I'm looking at it through an SJP lens. I agree with your main point about why the officials may have made their presence known and felt too often, i.e. not out of bias. At times I was reminded of the Prep-Wood game where the officials had an awful lot of meetings among themselves and the flow of the game suffered. But it wasn't as bad as it was back in September.
Who are those people? Fans! Coaches in this area knew this game would be close
I confess to thinking the Prep was going to win a bit more comfortably. North Penn fans are no doubt focused on the fumble and the interceptions. Lots of "what ifs ..." no doubt. Prep fans, or at least this Prep fan, are focused on the blocked punt, some of the officials' calls, the problems the Prep is still having with snaps (no fumbles but several plays that were blown up by exchange/handling problems), and the inability to connect on downfield passes (partly the result of North Penn's coverage). What was most impressive, though, was how hard each team played.
I'm not sure if the NP fans are focused on " the what ifs". It's hard to win a game let alone a game against a great team with 3 int's and a fumble, throw in a special teams TD. SJP no doubt caused the turnovers, made the plays. I personally did not expect it to be that close.
