La Salle-Prep?
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This looks like a genuine toss-up. I know the Prep is dealing with some injuries, and I'm sure LaSalle is too. Who's healthy and able to play will be a factor. I'd rather the game were played earlier in the year--the later it's played the less significant it seems in relation to the all-but-certain meeting three weeks later.
Two interesting tidbits about this match-up that caught my attention. One, each team kicker is their leading scorer. Two, their leading rushers currently sit at 287 & 282 yards, respectively. Last year at this time, the leading rushers were at 890-634. A few reasons for this quirky stats, IMO.
A weird year so far for sure. So many of the Prep's TD's have been scored from other than an offensive play from scrimmage--interception returns, fumble recoveries, and punt returns. Interesting that there are no kickoff returns for TDs--partly, perhaps, because the defense has given up few TDs--and no field goals that I can recall.
Any idea if Freeman is returning for Friday? That could be a big help.
Tulla,
I have been at the last two SJP games and this is where their drives have started and the result.
vs Roman:
1st QT:
1. SJP 29: 17-yard KO return; 5 plays,13 yards, punt.
2. RC 31: 21-yard punt return; 1 play, 31 yards, TD.
3. RC 41: No return on punt; 1 play, 41 yards, TD.
4. 38-yard punt return TD.
5. SJP 47: 10-yard punt return (TD wiped out by penalty), 1 play, 53 yards, TD.
6. 25-yard punt return TD.
1st/2nd QT:
2nd-Team in the game:
7. RC 22: (Defensive fumble rec.) 3 plays, 33 yards, TD.
8. RC: 30 (Took over on downs) 7 plays, 17 yards, downs at 13.
9. RC 24: (Took over on downs) 4 plays, -1 yards, downs at 25.
3rd QT:
10. RC 20: (Took over on downs) 4 plays, 12 yards, TD.
11. SJP 43: (After interception) 4 plays, -1 yards, punt.
4th QT:
12. At 50: (After interception) 4 plays, 13 yards, downs at RC 42
vs Judge:
1st QT:
1. SJP 36: 25-yard KO return; 10 plays, 39 yards, 25 yds FJ PENT, TD.
2. 39-yard interception return TD.
3. FJ 1: 33-yard INT return, 1 play, 1 yard, TD.
1st/2nd QT:
4. SJP 48: -7 on punt return, 10 plays, 62 yards, TD.
5. Muffed punt - Turnover at SJP 25.
6. SJP 33: (After fumble Rec), 9 plays, 67 yards, TD.
7. FJ 12: (after 1-yard return on Fumb Rec), 4 plays, 9 yards, downs at 13.
3rd QT:
8. SJP 22: 15-yard KO return, 6 plays, 18 yards, Punt from 30.
4th QT:
9. 37-yard Interception return TD.
10. SJP 41: (took over on downs), 3 plays, 6 yards, punt from 47.
In these games offensive yards just really weren't there and when you're mercy ruling teams in the first quarter and a half, then starters aren't going to see many touches. Hence, the odd numbers for the season so far.
The average starting field position for the the Hawks in these two games is at their opponent's 43-yard line.
They have had 22 possessions:
2 Punt returns for TDs
2 INT returns for TDs
9 Offensive TDs
4 Punts
4 turned over on downs
1 turnover (muffed punt)
Their 9 offensive TDs have only generated 338 yards of offense, or 37.7 yards per scoring drive. Their four return scores have only covered 139 yards, or 34.8 per return.
Furthermore, their top two RBs only have a combined 14 carries between them.
Thanks, Huck. Even weirder to see it all spelled out. That's why the last few games provide next to nothing to help with predictions for Friday night. Frankly, I think Friday's game will even be less of an indication than usual of what to expect in the November game.
Any word on whether there's a chance Simmons comes back later in the year?
Tulla, I haven't heard anything about Simmons. I see him on the sidelines and he's walking around ok, but walking around ok and being able to play a contact sport coming off a spring Achilles injury are two different things.
Is there any word regarding LaSalle's starting QB? Is he playing or practicing again? If so, is he playing QB? I can't imagine they pull the back up now. I don't know if LaSalle wins Friday night, but I do think they'll beat Prep in the state playoff game. Either way, I think both will be excellent games.
HS I think if Prep blows out LS friday then the playoff game goes prep. Lets say if it stays within 10, then this feels like a LS win in playoffs. Prep has potential to completely shut down LS offense and create short fields and run away. But if they can't do that it just feels like LS this year.
I don't see a blowout happening in either game. I think a lot of people are underestimating LaSalle. They are very very good from what I've seen.
Jones started at safety last week. I don't expect much else from him in this go-around. I could see him being mixed in if there is another game, which is likely. Solecki has been excellent to date. But this will be his stiffest test to date without a doubt.
LaSalle's PCL wins with Solecki as QB have been against Ryan, Carroll, Judge, and Roman. Let's wait till they play the Prep and Wood. And let's not forget McCrea.
Who is McCrea? Do you mean McCray?
From a statistical standpoint, no player has truly emerged as a frontrunner just yet. Maybe, Solecki or Peoples from AW. If LS wins both then I'd imagine he was instrumental and would get serious consideration.
I was in a big hurry. Yes, I meant McCray. My point is that McCray has been a consistently very good QB for most of two years. People might argue that it was all Swift last year, but there were some games (such as against Wood) where Swift played little if at all. McCray played well against Wood this year, so I would argue that going into this week's game he has at least as strong a case to be considered MVP as Solecki. Granted it's been a very strange year because of all the lopsided games.
Hey Burrs I was all over the place! Prep wins by 2 tds. Two big games to go before mvp talk can even start.
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SJP; You look over the schedule and see they beat a rebuilt Jesuit (3-3) team without Malik Davis (See FL Gators) and a decent not great St. Peters (4-2). But the Archbishop Wood game really stands out, tilting the numbers hard in Hawk’s favor. McCray and that defense will be difficult for any team to beat, at least that’s what the numbers say, again, keying hard on the Wood game and the defensive effort against those 3. Defense is proven, shutting down quality teams….Jesuit, SPP and Wood to 31 pts. Avg score all games 34-8.
LS; Scary number of weapons in the receiver corps to keep everyone on their toes with a notable completion percentage of 68%, good speed from backfield. Heck of a job by Danny Solecki stepping in for Isaiah Jones. Big offense at 37ppg. Defense allows 13 on average but 49 to the 2 best teams played, North Penn (rebuilt like Jesuit) and McDonogh. Had some trouble defending Qb Dejuan Ellis (VA Tech) of McDonogh. McCray not Ellis but a dual threat with similarities. LS pass twice as much as Hawks into a solid secondary; opportunities there. Defense is where SJP-LS appear to separate.
Power Rating says SJP by 14.25 points.
SJP; You look over the schedule and see they beat a rebuilt Jesuit (3-3) team without Malik Davis (See FL Gators) and a decent not great St. Peters (4-2). But the Archbishop Wood game really stands out, tilting the numbers hard in Hawk’s favor. McCray and that defense will be difficult for any team to beat, at least that’s what the numbers say, again, keying hard on the Wood game and the defensive effort against those 3. Defense is proven, shutting down quality teams….Jesuit, SPP and Wood to 31 pts. Avg score all games 34-8.
LS; Scary number of weapons in the receiver corps to keep everyone on their toes with a notable completion percentage of 68%, good speed from backfield. Heck of a job by Danny Solecki stepping in for Isaiah Jones. Big offense at 37ppg. Defense allows 13 on average but 49 to the 2 best teams played, North Penn (rebuilt like Jesuit) and McDonogh. Had some trouble defending Qb Dejuan Ellis (VA Tech) of McDonogh. McCray not Ellis but a dual threat with similarities. LS pass twice as much as Hawks into a solid secondary; opportunities there. Defense is where SJP-LS appear to separate.
Power Rating says SJP by 14.25 points.
Amen Huck, Ellis is an unusual talent plus the game was changed when I. Jones went down.
I think 14 is high too, based as it is on simple stats that can mislead, should say often mislead. Big (too big?) influence by the Wood game.
I think 14 is high too, based as it is on simple stats that can mislead, should say often mislead. Big (too big?) influence by the Wood game.
I think the key to this game will be who can start fast. I'll be really interested to see how Prep responds if LaSalle can jump to an early lead. Prep hasn't played from behind all year and I'm not sure their offense is built for it. To be fair, we haven't seen if they are or not.
On the other hand, if Prep can jump to an early lead watch out. That defense will pin their ears back and attack. LaSalles QB will take a beating if they have to throw 40 times to mount a comeback.
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but I see this as kind of "the game within the game." An increasing amount of teams choose to defer (and I'm guessing whoever wins the coin toss tonight will), but if I'm coaching in this game I want the ball. I get the theory behind deferring and often agree with it. However, I see tonight's contest as being different. Let's try to capture the lead and see how the other team responds. It could be a major advantage.
On the other hand, if Prep can jump to an early lead watch out. That defense will pin their ears back and attack. LaSalles QB will take a beating if they have to throw 40 times to mount a comeback.
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but I see this as kind of "the game within the game." An increasing amount of teams choose to defer (and I'm guessing whoever wins the coin toss tonight will), but if I'm coaching in this game I want the ball. I get the theory behind deferring and often agree with it. However, I see tonight's contest as being different. Let's try to capture the lead and see how the other team responds. It could be a major advantage.
Also, Vs McDonough, Lasalle missed 2FGs and had a TD Called back, 21-9 could have been a W, they did a great job with containing Ellis who is phenomenal. He had a Long 80yd catch, and then to seal it a 80yrd Run in the 4th He didnt have many passing yards vs LaSalle and only had maybe 120 yards Rushing. They were a really good Team, a DT that's going to Penn State was a monster. Who knows if Jones plays the entire game things would have been different nobody knows but it's still a L and you move on. Tonight will be a grind, this is what it's all about. Good Luck to Both Teams
Always comes down to that doesn't it, running the ball. Even vs the Pine Richland types, you can play keep away if you can pound it and "clock" em right out of the game.
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