Best matchup hands down this year is parklands tall athletic receivers against central catholic d1 s
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Parkland's receivers are big, but there's not really a crazy athlete in the bunch. Really the only uber athletes they have are Cross, who is limited by a minor MCL tear, and Jahan Worth, the sophomore DT (really a linebacker'playing up front out of necessity). You actually could talk me into Brouse being the other guy on the roster with elite athleticism. Nobody who is going to touch the ball.
Yeboah really uses his size well, and is skilled and getting the ball in the air, but I don't think he has an out of this world vertical and he's not a burner. They like throwing it up to him one on one, but against Hamlin or Garner, not sure that's a great idea. I'd love to see him run more over the middle stuff, they hit him a couple times last week in big spots on slant routes, then the sluggo for the backbreaker at the end. Bross probably gets asked to do the most in terms of routes, and at 6'4 can hurt smaller corners, particularly with most teams using their bigger guy on Yeboah. Ridgway is a really good high school football player, I think he'll actually be the key player (beyond the stars) on Saturday. He's probably the best receiver in the open field. And Panella is the requisite little guy, he can run a bit.
What does PCC like to do in coverage? I would think with the guys they have back there, just man up and dare teams to beat them? Parkland doesn't have guys who can just shake defenders on sheer athleticism, but they can really use scheme to get guys open (thoffensive coaching staff is the best around these parts) and they like one on one to exploit their size advantages. Cross also throws as good a deep ball as I've seen in high school, the touch is impressive.
Even with him probably limited as a runner, he can beat teams as a drop back passer, as he did to Upper Dublin last week. If he's closer to full go and a threat to scramble, he can limit how much man PCC plays, but I'm not sure that's going to happen unless Mike Cerimele is some kind of witch doctor.
Yeboah really uses his size well, and is skilled and getting the ball in the air, but I don't think he has an out of this world vertical and he's not a burner. They like throwing it up to him one on one, but against Hamlin or Garner, not sure that's a great idea. I'd love to see him run more over the middle stuff, they hit him a couple times last week in big spots on slant routes, then the sluggo for the backbreaker at the end. Bross probably gets asked to do the most in terms of routes, and at 6'4 can hurt smaller corners, particularly with most teams using their bigger guy on Yeboah. Ridgway is a really good high school football player, I think he'll actually be the key player (beyond the stars) on Saturday. He's probably the best receiver in the open field. And Panella is the requisite little guy, he can run a bit.
What does PCC like to do in coverage? I would think with the guys they have back there, just man up and dare teams to beat them? Parkland doesn't have guys who can just shake defenders on sheer athleticism, but they can really use scheme to get guys open (thoffensive coaching staff is the best around these parts) and they like one on one to exploit their size advantages. Cross also throws as good a deep ball as I've seen in high school, the touch is impressive.
Even with him probably limited as a runner, he can beat teams as a drop back passer, as he did to Upper Dublin last week. If he's closer to full go and a threat to scramble, he can limit how much man PCC plays, but I'm not sure that's going to happen unless Mike Cerimele is some kind of witch doctor.
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I don't really have an opinion worth paying attention to in the 3A game. I follow 4A closely, but the smaller classes, I know what's going on locally then have a general idea with the rest of the state. I'm not really familiar with ECP's roster. Mischler has been there before, and I'd imagine they're loaded again. But I have a hard time imagining anybody who could beat Imhotep at this point.
I don't really have an opinion worth paying attention to in the 3A game. I follow 4A closely, but the smaller classes, I know what's going on locally then have a general idea with the rest of the state. I'm not really familiar with ECP's roster. Mischler has been there before, and I'd imagine they're loaded again. But I have a hard time imagining anybody who could beat Imhotep at this point.
Got ya. I just think tep is like the gateway and woodland hills of the east. They are allows loaded with d1 talent and under achieve. Look at the 2013 team that got blown out by south Fayette. This is Mishlers 4th trip to Hersey coming away with 2 state championships. I just like that ecp has been in the big games before and are more experienced. Plus tep usually lacks a good kicking game so special teams could be key in this game. I'm picking ecp. Who are you taking in the aaaa game? It's hard for me to bet against pcc with cross's injury and with all pcc talent.
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Hamlin and Garner are very, very good, with a little drop off to Swann, Jones, Frerotte, and other kids. Also, Ron George does a nice job as a LB/cover guy. They are much bigger and more physical than you would expect for DB's - particularly Hamlin, Garner, and George. But none of them are 6'5" - probably closer to 6'2 max.
I think the key to the game is the Parkland QB - if he can run a little and spread them out, they will have a chance. If he is bothered significantly by his injury, they will be in a tough spot unless he can complete 65-70% of his passes with a couple TD's and no TO's. If they try and pound PCC, they will lose - must spread them out and not let them stack the box, and take shots.
Hamlin and Garner are very, very good, with a little drop off to Swann, Jones, Frerotte, and other kids. Also, Ron George does a nice job as a LB/cover guy. They are much bigger and more physical than you would expect for DB's - particularly Hamlin, Garner, and George. But none of them are 6'5" - probably closer to 6'2 max.
I think the key to the game is the Parkland QB - if he can run a little and spread them out, they will have a chance. If he is bothered significantly by his injury, they will be in a tough spot unless he can complete 65-70% of his passes with a couple TD's and no TO's. If they try and pound PCC, they will lose - must spread them out and not let them stack the box, and take shots.
The match ups begin up front with the secondary taking care of breakdowns. Parkland has a good line but I’ll take Central Catholic’s D-Front to set the tone with their secondary cleaning up.
Can’t speak to individual matchups at all as my approach has always been the bottom line, i.e., the team; how the team did….which is the collective expression of the individual parts….or matchups.
So, looking at their performance against up tempo or similar talent, Pine Richland, Penn Trafford. Woodland Hills even Sen Val you can see how they did. They did well, in some cases against better teams in my view, Pine Rich, Woody,.Penn Traf. I like the Vikings a lot.
Can’t speak to individual matchups at all as my approach has always been the bottom line, i.e., the team; how the team did….which is the collective expression of the individual parts….or matchups.
So, looking at their performance against up tempo or similar talent, Pine Richland, Penn Trafford. Woodland Hills even Sen Val you can see how they did. They did well, in some cases against better teams in my view, Pine Rich, Woody,.Penn Traf. I like the Vikings a lot.
PCC by 2 TDs. Imhotep should come out on top again by 2 TDs . I think this years Tep team may have as much if not more talent than PCC. The REAL state championship should be PCC vs. TEP. I do however like the ECP coaching staff and they always produce very good competitive teams with talented athletes . I was at the 2CB West /ECP games as well as the Wood/ECP game . They are an impressive program .
So we're all thinking blowout? Or at least a multi score breather for PCC?
I think they're the favorites, but Parkland is within their margin of error so to speak. I think the Trojans can play enough defense to hang around. If I knew how healthy Cross was, I'd be tempted to pick the upset, because I think the way to beat this defense is quarterback mobility. Maenza a from NA had two big rushing games, as did Jurkovec in the game where they yielded the most points. Attaching PCC conventionally is a recipe for disaster, but Parkland gives themselves a chance by spreading it out and throwing it a lot.
I think PCC wins a low-ish scoring game, they're two very different teams, but maybe the same type of formula as the 2007 game between these two. One or two possession game, and turnovers or big special teams play could swing the pendulum in either direction.
I think they're the favorites, but Parkland is within their margin of error so to speak. I think the Trojans can play enough defense to hang around. If I knew how healthy Cross was, I'd be tempted to pick the upset, because I think the way to beat this defense is quarterback mobility. Maenza a from NA had two big rushing games, as did Jurkovec in the game where they yielded the most points. Attaching PCC conventionally is a recipe for disaster, but Parkland gives themselves a chance by spreading it out and throwing it a lot.
I think PCC wins a low-ish scoring game, they're two very different teams, but maybe the same type of formula as the 2007 game between these two. One or two possession game, and turnovers or big special teams play could swing the pendulum in either direction.
Ibelieve if Cross were completely healthy it would be a much closer contest ,since he is a tremendous threat . This does not seem to be the situation ,thus a 2TD game IMO.
Imhotep USED to be like Woody and Gateway. Now, they have two assistants in Drew Gordon and Mark Schmidt who bring state title experience to the table. The discipline and technique of this Tep team is superior. Don't count on them imploding.
EPC, Drew Gordon's son Brett is the OC at Imhotep. He was also the OC at LaSalle under his father and obviously has a wealth of knowledge and experience. Like you said, with Schmidt and Gordon that team is much more fundamentally sound this season.
Drew took over at McDevitt (D12) this year and got them into the single A state playoffs. I only expect that program to keep getting better. It's amazing what great coaching can do for a school.
I think there's a fundamental difference between Gateway, who has never be outside of their own District, and suffered one of the biggest upsets in the playoff era when the 2008 team lost to Bethel Park, and Woodland Hills who has been to Hershey three times, and has won the toughest top to bottom district in PA four times since 1996, only PCC has more.
Woody has had a boatload of FBS players, but I'm not sure which teams have drastically underachieved as their rep suggests.
-The 1996 finalists are as big an overachieving team as there's been in 4A.
-2001 was the favorite in Hershey and probably the best team, but crazy weather plus the Steve Breaston injury both have a serious leveling effect.
-2002 was their best team, made it to finals and had an Austin Scott problem
-2005 they lost in WPIAL finals to McKeesport, who won the state championship game by 400 points
-2009 is probably the only time they lost to a clearly inferior team, won the a WPIAL then we're shocked the next week by State College
-2010 and 2012 they lost in WPIAL finals to North Allegheny twice in one score games, who won state titles in convincing fashion both years
-2013 they lost the WPIAL final to PCC
-This year they were undefeated until losing to PCC in the WPIAL semis, who is a pretty heavy favorite to win the whole thing.
They've certainly had the talent to win the whole thing, but if you actually look at it, I don't think Woodland Hills is this terrible underachiever they're made out to be. And this has all happened at one of the most challenging districts in the state.
Woody has had a boatload of FBS players, but I'm not sure which teams have drastically underachieved as their rep suggests.
-The 1996 finalists are as big an overachieving team as there's been in 4A.
-2001 was the favorite in Hershey and probably the best team, but crazy weather plus the Steve Breaston injury both have a serious leveling effect.
-2002 was their best team, made it to finals and had an Austin Scott problem
-2005 they lost in WPIAL finals to McKeesport, who won the state championship game by 400 points
-2009 is probably the only time they lost to a clearly inferior team, won the a WPIAL then we're shocked the next week by State College
-2010 and 2012 they lost in WPIAL finals to North Allegheny twice in one score games, who won state titles in convincing fashion both years
-2013 they lost the WPIAL final to PCC
-This year they were undefeated until losing to PCC in the WPIAL semis, who is a pretty heavy favorite to win the whole thing.
They've certainly had the talent to win the whole thing, but if you actually look at it, I don't think Woodland Hills is this terrible underachiever they're made out to be. And this has all happened at one of the most challenging districts in the state.
RoverNation05 very accurate assessment of Woody Hi. They've had the misfortune to be at the wrong place at the wrong time against some pretty good teams.
Another interesting matchup is Cathedral's back Ta'Nauz Gregory's speed against Imhotep's DEs....Andre Mintze 6-4, 235/Shaka Toney 6-4 225. Will he get the edge (1059 rush, 644 pass) or get behind the secondary? At 5-8 150, he's a blur, a typical Cathedral back prioritizing speed over bulk, like the Vincent teams of a few years ago. And will ECP's soph QB Mischler hold up under ICS's pressure, Mintz, Toney, Crawford, Denby, Upshur, etc.
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