All Catholic Red....... thoughts

[RCH13co18]

OFFENSE

C Mack Grey St. Joe's Prep
L Anthony Diodato Arch. Wood
L Jackson Evans St. Joe's Prep
L Dom Carey Father Judge
L Chris Maloney La Salle
TE Kyle Pitts Arch. Wood
WR Mark Webb Arch. Wood
WR Justin Gies Father Judge
WR Terrance Greene St. Joe's Prep
QB Marquez McCray St. Joe's Prep
RB D'Andre Swift St. Joe's Prep
RB Syaire Madden La Salle
RB Raheem Blackshear Arch. Wood
FB Shawn Thompson Arch Wood
MP Jordan Haynes Roman Catholic
PK Dan Zanine Arch. Wood
DEFENSE
L Ryan Bryce St. Joe's Prep
L Dom Carey Father Judge
L Garrett Zobel La Salle
L Anthony Diodato Arch. Wood
L Drew Obuchowicz Arch. Ryan
LB Austin Lemke La Salle
LB Matt Palmer Arch. Wood
LB James Johnson St. Joe's Prep
LB Matt Galasso Roman Catholic
B Tre McNeill La Salle
B Dahmir Ruffin Arch. Carroll
B Richard Carr St. Joe's Prep
B Nasir Peoples Arch. Wood
P Mike Wells La Salle
SECOND TEAM

OFFENSE
C Tommy Walsh Arch. Wood
L Garrett Zobel La Salle
L Taron Hampton St. Joe's Prep
L Sal Cinaglia St. Joe's Prep
L Brendan Ruskowski Archbishop Ryan
L Carter Lynch St. Joe's Prep
TE Liam Trainor La Salle
WR Jordan Haynes Roman Catholic
WR Darryle Simmmons St. Joe's Prep
WR Troy Holland La Salle
WR Shamar Edwards Archbishop Ryan
QB Rob King Father Judge
RB A.J. Gaymon Roman Catholic
RB Christian Waller St. Joe's Prep
RB Jaye McNeil Archbishop Ryan
RB Joey Burnham La Salle
PK Ryan Flaherty Roman Catholic
DEFENSE

L Chris Lowndes St. Joe's Prep
L Aidan Rich Roman Catholic
L Bill Shaeffer Arch. Wood
L Shawn Connor Arch. Ryan
L Jake Ballard St. Joseph's Prep
L Mike Leyland Roman Catholic
LB Tyler Smith Arch. Wood
LB Anthony Schaeffler Father Judge
LB Myles Talley St. Joe's Prep
LB Liam Trainor La Salle
LB Mark Kellam Father Judge
B Shane Flaherty Roman Catholic
B Dan Freeman Arch. Wood
B Khadir Roberts Arch. Carroll
B Dawson DeIuliis St. Joe's Prep
P Shane Flaherty Roman Catholic

 

[TDjones22]

I said it last week, I think it sucks that Carroll QB didn't get anything and i knew he wasn't going to. Almost 1900 yards vs some of the best competition in the country. 152-296-1852, i get it, it's tough to put him in front of McCray or King. Good to see the Flaherty Brothers share some honors together, great family great kids.

 

[RCH13co18]

I know I'm a Roman supporter and I never pull for this guy, but Bristow deserves to be on the 2nd team. 35-374 and 3 tds. Who votes for these teams bc if it goes by numbers alone I see a few bumps myself.

 

[CYOBALL1]

I know I'm a Roman supporter and I never pull for this guy, but Bristow deserves to be on the 2nd team. 35-374 and 3 tds. Who votes for these teams bc if it goes by numbers alone I see a few bumps myself.

He received 0 votes.

 

[TDjones22]

Wow that's crazy. Shame

 

[RCH13co18]

He received 0 votes.

How can you see that info? I would like to see it.
It's by popularity. How is it they have Simmons on 2nd team 16-221, 1td? Same league same comp.
I was the one saying move Joey to TE, but I think he was stubbed bc of his name.

 

[UptownVike]

If I'm not mistaken, the choices are voted on by all the COACHES, so I hear u but tough to argue with the people who's opinions are probably more important than ours

 

[tulla]

The process is very flawed. The selection should be made after the playoffs, and having the extra numbers, e.g. three wide receivers as first-team selections and four as secnd-team selections, only makes those not selected feel worse. It also makes some of the second-team selections look something like honorable mentions.

About the QB selection. One remarkable thing about McCray is that so far at least he hasn't thrown an interception all year. And it's not as if he throws only safe passes. I understand the disappointment about the Carroll QB, but it's hard to vote for a QB when he never played in a game where there was pressure to perform late in a tight game. I know McCray didn't have too many such games but against Wood, for instance, he made some big plays in the second-half after a relatively weak first half.

Even though I'm a Prep guy, I have to scratch my head about Swift's selection. On the other hand, if he has two great playoff games, I can see him being not only first-team but maybe even MVP. A case could be made that Waller should be first-team for the regular season.

 

[btm2070]

I said it last week, I think it sucks that Carroll QB didn't get anything and i knew he wasn't going to. Almost 1900 yards vs some of the best competition in the country. 152-296-1852, i get it, it's tough to put him in front of McCray or King. Good to see the Flaherty Brothers share some honors together, great family great kids.

How could he? He was not nominated

 

[CYOBALL1]

Having seen Wood play a lot this season I don't recall seeing Thompson play full back.

 

[RCH13co18]

How could he? He was not nominated

So your coach nominates you? Or is that by other coaches as well?

 

[CYOBALL1]

So your coach nominates you? Or is that by other coaches as well?

Your coach nominates you. Other coaches vote from the list of nominations. Coaches can not vote for their own players.

 

[UptownVike]

I know a lot of you won't agree with me but I agree with the process, I think the coaches have a much better perspective than we do, no im not a coach, far from it, I do agree with SWIFT being 1st team, I also agree with Sy getting MVP, Daryl Simmons is a good WR regardless of his stats

 

[RCH13co18]

Your coach nominates you. Other coaches vote from the list of nominations. Coaches can not vote for their own players.

Wow that's not good if that coach didn't nominate that QB.

 

[UptownVike]

Oh yeah and I failed to mention I see that Mark Webb got first-team all Catholic I think I had the upper hand on knowing how good he was compared to some of the receivers some of you guys compared him to, do to the fact that I seen him in competition with the best in the country against the best db's in the country and how he rated / faired

 

[RCH13co18]

I know a lot of you won't agree with me but I agree with the process, I think the coaches have a much better perspective than we do, no im not a coach, far from it, I do agree with SWIFT being 1st team, I also agree with Sy getting MVP, Daryl Simmons is a good WR regardless of his stats

Being a good WR that don't put up numbers means there's something else. I wish we had a list of the nominees.

 

[UptownVike]

This is just a thought regarding Darryl Simmons stats, due to the fact that he was playing with a senior who might have had to get his stats up and help his recruiting, could it be that the coach had made sure most of the passes went to the other receiver ( Senior) I've seen that done before

 

[CYOBALL1]

I know a lot of you won't agree with me but I agree with the process, I think the coaches have a much better perspective than we do, no im not a coach, far from it, I do agree with SWIFT being 1st team, I also agree with Sy getting MVP, Daryl Simmons is a good WR regardless of his stats

Unfortunately this is the process in place right now.
You have a coach who nominates a kid that doesn't even play the position listed, then follows up and nominates a kid for Multipurpose when his total stat line for the season is 3 rushes for 8 yards, 0 receptions.
I agree with RCHS that it is unfortunate that Bristow didn't receive any recognition. At the end of the day his team didn't win many games and those guys who are productive lose out to those with bigger names.
All Catholic shouldn't be who is on Rivals top 100. It should be for the players who are the most productive!

 

[RCH13co18]

This is just a thought regarding Darryl Simmons stats, due to the fact that he was playing with a senior who might have had to get his stats up and help his recruiting, could it be that the coach had made sure most of the passes went to the other receiver ( Senior) I've seen that done before

Could be true and I'm not denying that, but we're talking ALL-conference. Which is voted on by the coaches. If i'm an opposing coach the reasoning behind this guy having low numbers don't concern me.
Against the coaches that voted his numbers are 10-104, 0tds. Does those numbers warrant a selection? That's roughly 17 yds per game.

 

[RCH13co18]

Unfortunately this is the process in place right now.
You have a coach who nominates a kid that doesn't even play the position listed, then follows up and nominates a kid for Multipurpose when his total stat line for the season is 3 rushes for 8 yards, 0 receptions.
I agree with RCHS that it is unfortunate that Bristow didn't receive any recognition. At the end of the day his team didn't win many games and those guys who are productive lose out to those with bigger names.
All Catholic shouldn't be who is on Rivals top 100. It should be for the players who are the most productive!

Agreed what you did at a camp doesn't matter if you didn't do it with pads on. There very well could be other variables that need to be considered , but don't matter when selecting the best performers.

 

[6daystosaturday]

At least we are having this debate rather than EVERYONE make all catholic. I never agreed with coaches withholding nominations etc. Webb proved he is all catholic by catching the bomb vs lasalle. Could have done it ALL DAY. But that is not how Wood flows. I disagree with a ton of the picks, I see RB's with less than 10 yards rushed all year and under 100 yards received all year picked. I see receivers with under 150 yards picked. If you don't actually hand the ball to a kid or throw to him...how is that all catholic? But you have to remember it is who is nominated. So overall....a few hurt feeling but decent field.

 

[RCH13co18]

wait a minute please tell me that there's some sort of mistake 6-8yds? What coach thought that was a good selection?

 

[RCH13co18]

How many players could one coach select?

 

[UptownVike]

Now granted I'm not in the room when the coaches have the meeting but I'm pretty sure enough, If not correct me someone, that the coaches
don't sit in the room with stats sheets, nor do they refer to them?????

 

[RCH13co18]

Now granted I'm not in the room when the coaches have the meeting but I'm pretty sure enough, If not correct me someone, that the coaches
don't sit in the room with stats sheets, nor do they refer to them?????

I don't think they do also , but how are the names generated. This RB kid from Lasalle rushed 6 times for 8 yds. What coach remembers that kid? That's a slap in the face to guys who actually put in work this season.

 

[Mactatty]

Edwards from Ryan didn't deserve they must of ran out of players to pick

 

[TDjones22]

@RCH13co18 RB from LaSalle #4 a JR is Madden's FB , he did a really good job of opening holes for him all year an has 3Tds. Wood RB Thompson wasn't a FB hes a RB. That's a BS nomination on Woods part. So you can Vote a RB as a FB when clearly hes not a FB. Slimeball Devlin at it again

 

[Knights1776]

Just because Devlin pasted your team, don't take it out on Thompson...He has 700 rushing yards on 89 carries 7.9 per often from FB position between the tackles and over 100 yards receiving and 11 TD's in basically 7 games, with only playing 1 quarter vs Wayne, and sat 2 quarters vs Carroll and UD and another quarter against Roman like the rest of the offense in those blowouts...also often blocks for blackshear and creates holes....Funny how you call Devlin a slime ball for wanting to recognize a great player who is unselfish and underrated with all the other weapons Wood has, and put up legit numbers..But you try to defend 6 carries for 8 yards...C'mon Man!

 

[CYOBALL1]

Just because Devlin pasted your team, don't take it out on Thompson...He has 700 rushing yards on 89 carries 7.9 per often from FB position between the tackles and over 100 yards receiving and 11 TD's in basically 7 games, with only playing 1 quarter vs Wayne, and sat 2 quarters vs Carroll and UD and another quarter against Roman like the rest of the offense in those blowouts...also often blocks for blackshear and creates holes....Funny how you call Devlin a slime ball for wanting to recognize a great player who is unselfish and underrated with all the other weapons Wood has, and put up legit numbers..But you try to defend 6 carries for 8 yards...C'mon Man!

3 carries 8 yards. That was the player Devlin nominated for MP.
System is flawed and coaches allow it to happen.
I'll stay tuned for Huck's unbiased All Catholic teams.

 

[Knights1776]

Who cares, you guys are the ones getting on Devlin, but defend same thing LS did...Not fooling anyone...You can lose and name call all you want, but still just sour grapes....

 

[RCH13co18]

Out of the 3 All Conference teams which holds more weight? ( Coach, Daily News, Huck)

 

[6daystosaturday]

It's like all-american. Look at the nfl draft, have you ever heard any of the draft gurus talk about who is all-american? Used to be this is how you got your name out. Too much info now. As a matter of fact all this info really helps you see how flawed the picks really are.
Me personally, I am old school. I am going to look at Huck's and Ace's and Rick's teams and I will probably agree more with them. Then when all-city comes out and the pub and the interac is mixed in, that for me is more important. And when Rick throws D1 in and does all Southeast Pa...then that is the one that I think is the best.

 

[TDjones22]

I respect Huck for his teams, they are all fair with no bias. As for O'Brien or Ace, they don't know there ass from a hole in the ground. Ace is Bias for INTER AC 100%, O'Brien has his all Area Team by hear say an who coaches say to him are good. My opinion O'Brien is clueless, yes he does stats an goes to games, but he doesn't know who's good or not, that's why he bases his team off asking coaches what they think.

 

[SJP80]

From a PCL perspective, Huck gets it right. He knows the PCL better than anyone. Level and fair. In fairness to the others, he cares and covers the PCL predominantly. Rick is OK, covers a lot more which makes it harder to be as close/good as Huck. Ace still has some work to do for my taste. It does feel as he boosts the IA teams/players higher than most level folks would feel they would rank. I doubt he does it intentionally.

 

[FJ78]

CYOBALL1 and TDjones22

Do you know how All-Catholic works? Huck can correct me if I am wrong, but I am almost POSITIVE that the MP position is nominated AFTER the all-catholic positions are voted on. AFTER the vote coaches are allowed to nominate a player that did not make first team for the MP spot. So it is more of a second chance to get your guy first team recognition. I looked up the name of the guy you referred to on Ted's website. Asked a Wood buddy of mine about him and he said he wouldn't be surprised if Devlin thought of that kid as his most important player!!!

Don't get me wrong I know plenty of people that are Devlin haters, I have heard my fair share of horror stories, but I can't agree that nominating a guy who is your captain/most important player makes you a slimeball.

 

[Burrs5]

FJ78, that's how they do it. MP is unlike the rest of the positions where you are nominated beforehand. The only criteria that I know of is that you have to be a 2ns-Team AC player at any position. So, in theory, a DL or OL could be nominated.

IMO, they should probably adjust the criteria to be a MP player..For example, a two-way starter. Or, a player that is versatile on offense and returns kicks.

At the end of the day they probably got it right with Haynes. Plays WR, gets carries, returns kicks, and plays a little DB.

 

[Relayer]

Some of you need to relax. Rick covers more games than anyone in this area, and it's not even close. Hell, I would ask coaches opinions too. When 60 guys are represented in a 7 team league it's overkill. The SOL selections will be the same way, but worse. Have some balls and choose 11 on O and 11 on D. Stop worrying about hurting feelings.

 

[CYOBALL1]

CYOBALL1 and TDjones22

Do you know how All-Catholic works? Huck can correct me if I am wrong, but I am almost POSITIVE that the MP position is nominated AFTER the all-catholic positions are voted on. AFTER the vote coaches are allowed to nominate a player that did not make first team for the MP spot. So it is more of a second chance to get your guy first team recognition. I looked up the name of the guy you referred to on Ted's website. Asked a Wood buddy of mine about him and he said he wouldn't be surprised if Devlin thought of that kid as his most important player!!!

Don't get me wrong I know plenty of people that are Devlin haters, I have heard my fair share of horror stories, but I can't agree that nominating a guy who is your captain/most important player makes you a slimeball.

FJ welcome aboard. The nomination was a little outrageous. Just my opinion. Moving on.