I've never met john steinmetz and I've only heard good things about him from former players and parents but I can only imagine infante will sleep like a baby tonight. the prep hung 30+ on LS in 4 straight gms and the last gm the def was just awful. with the gordons gone and the hiring of the def coordinator that the prep slapped around the last few yrs I don't see things getting better for them especially with the talent pool way down. the gordons challenged infante and made him a better coach and since he now won't have to worry about an explosive offense it may not be pretty. again, I'm sure steinmetz is a great guy with a storied lasalle history but it seems like the easy choice for a school that has stopped striving for excellence and excepted football mediocrity.
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Don't come off so cocky you a-wipe. I have been around long enough to see unexpected swings of the pendulum. I have no allegiance to either school, I just don't like the tone of your post. REMEMBER "novaforlife", you were probably just as arrogantly cocky about Villanova's chances against NC State and the NCAA tournament & how'd that work out for you. HA
So, you admit you don't know John at all yet you run your mouth again; you're not a quick learner are you?
You know nothing about LaSalle; stop trying to act like you do.
BTW, it's accepted, not excepted, but I'm sure you knew that.
Good luck to Coach Steinmetz!
You know nothing about LaSalle; stop trying to act like you do.
BTW, it's accepted, not excepted, but I'm sure you knew that.
Good luck to Coach Steinmetz!
I can't say I am surprised with Steinmetz getting the job. We all saw it coming. I do agree that this was an easy hire and I am disappointed that LS didn't court anyone that may bring a fresh start. They let the same old candidates come to them. I'm sorry, it is proof that they are not taking the program as serious as other schools. I'm not happy about it but it is true. One thing Nova said is very accurate, the Gordon's did bring the best out of Gabe, he is on record as saying such.
This post was edited on 3/26 8:01 PM by murphman1975
This post was edited on 3/26 8:01 PM by murphman1975
Chuvalo, I did have nova going to the final 4, jay didn't coach his best game that's for sure, still hurts. you don't like my tone, I could give 3 f*#-$ about that. JB, glad my whipping boy is back. did lasalle not give up 30+ in the last 4 games against sjp? was the last game not hard to watch? is steinmetz not a great guy? did the gordons not make infante better? which one of those comments do you not ACCEPT? you are not objective and clearly are a die hard lasalle fan that believes they can never do wrong. tough to have an intelligent debate with someone like that.
I know that the selection committee had two former players on it, one being a former quarterback not named gordon and I know that they would not discuss financial aid or recruiting. I may know a little more than you think.
Correcting grammar on a blog sight is like me saying my dad can beat up your day, fyi.
I know that the selection committee had two former players on it, one being a former quarterback not named gordon and I know that they would not discuss financial aid or recruiting. I may know a little more than you think.
Correcting grammar on a blog sight is like me saying my dad can beat up your day, fyi.
Murph and Nova,
You got it right.
Better than the LaSalle Expert(s)
JB and Chulvo are A$$ Clowns,
Always were - Always will be
Paper Tigers! Key Board Blow Hards (and I mean BLOW HARD)
Pay NO mind to the clowns behind the curtain!
You had it right all aloooooooong!
LaSalle had One (1) year where the planets aligned
Long Live The Prep!!!!!!
You got it right.
Better than the LaSalle Expert(s)
JB and Chulvo are A$$ Clowns,
Always were - Always will be
Paper Tigers! Key Board Blow Hards (and I mean BLOW HARD)
Pay NO mind to the clowns behind the curtain!
You had it right all aloooooooong!
LaSalle had One (1) year where the planets aligned
Long Live The Prep!!!!!!
Nova,
It's not that LS has "accepted" football mediocrity, the administrative posture has not and will not change regardless of the "All-in" modus operandi currently exhibited from our friends at 17th & Girard. We had a great run during the BG(player)/DG coordinator years during the '90's, had a similar run with BG/DG( OC/Coach) from '06 to present.
The current posture at LS is all athletic teams are of equal importance, and get equal support financially and otherwise, which is probably why LS has dominated the PCL athletic title(s) haul in recent years. My FB friends don't like hearing this as many regard Football as the marquis sport and perhaps should get the lion-share of the attention and support. It's just not going to happen at LaSalle, hasn't to date and unless there's an epiphany of different Administrative and Board thinkers, it won't in the future. We benefited by some wonderful players surrounding Brett as QB and those St. Gen's heavy classes that came in the mid '00's. LS must rely on those type of occurrences to compete at the highest level, it just won't be re-loading year after year. Prep is currently in that re-loading phase right now, and will until further notice. IMHO...
I wish Coach Steinmetz well, a good man with a difficult task moving forward. Will need to garner a solid OC/coaches and hope that one of those LaSalle "cycles" will return during his tenure. As I stated before, when the athletic talent on the field is comparable, coaching and the intangibles often make the difference for victory and success. The FB PCL at the 4A/3A level currently is dramatically top-heavy with SJP and Wood that it's really not open for debate.
This post was edited on 3/26 11:03 PM by yesman3
This post was edited on 3/27 7:17 AM by yesman3
It's not that LS has "accepted" football mediocrity, the administrative posture has not and will not change regardless of the "All-in" modus operandi currently exhibited from our friends at 17th & Girard. We had a great run during the BG(player)/DG coordinator years during the '90's, had a similar run with BG/DG( OC/Coach) from '06 to present.
The current posture at LS is all athletic teams are of equal importance, and get equal support financially and otherwise, which is probably why LS has dominated the PCL athletic title(s) haul in recent years. My FB friends don't like hearing this as many regard Football as the marquis sport and perhaps should get the lion-share of the attention and support. It's just not going to happen at LaSalle, hasn't to date and unless there's an epiphany of different Administrative and Board thinkers, it won't in the future. We benefited by some wonderful players surrounding Brett as QB and those St. Gen's heavy classes that came in the mid '00's. LS must rely on those type of occurrences to compete at the highest level, it just won't be re-loading year after year. Prep is currently in that re-loading phase right now, and will until further notice. IMHO...
I wish Coach Steinmetz well, a good man with a difficult task moving forward. Will need to garner a solid OC/coaches and hope that one of those LaSalle "cycles" will return during his tenure. As I stated before, when the athletic talent on the field is comparable, coaching and the intangibles often make the difference for victory and success. The FB PCL at the 4A/3A level currently is dramatically top-heavy with SJP and Wood that it's really not open for debate.
This post was edited on 3/26 11:03 PM by yesman3
This post was edited on 3/27 7:17 AM by yesman3
As a Prep guy, I hope Steinmetz is able to maintain a strong football program at LaSalle. It doesn't do SJP any good if winning the PCL is seen as a foregone conclusion and all games are one-sided. Strong rivalries are good for both parties to the rivalries.
None of the LaSalle guys have attempted to address the natural question Steinmetz's candidacy posed. Why, since he says he never had any particular interest in being a head coach while DG was the coach, did he resign while DG was still coach and then apply for the job after DG resigned? It's hard to believe there wasn't some friction or disagreement there.
As for the meaning of the "one year" the stars were aligned comment by FBU, it must be that he meant the one year LaSalle won the state title. I would disagree. The stars were aligned and the Prince of Darkness himself was calling the shots the night LaSalle beat the Prep in 2006. Check the stats and any contemporary report on the game. I'd also suggest, though some LaSalle guys might take this the wrong way, that a couple of the titles LaSalle won during their run (2010 and 2011) were made easier (stars being aligned?) by the sharp decline in the quality of SJP's team in the two years following Brooks' departure. Maybe, just maybe LaSalle would have done just a bit better in at least one of those years if it had played a really good SJP team during the regular season and in the playoffs. Especially in 2010 they played no close regular season league games and no close league playoff games.
None of the LaSalle guys have attempted to address the natural question Steinmetz's candidacy posed. Why, since he says he never had any particular interest in being a head coach while DG was the coach, did he resign while DG was still coach and then apply for the job after DG resigned? It's hard to believe there wasn't some friction or disagreement there.
As for the meaning of the "one year" the stars were aligned comment by FBU, it must be that he meant the one year LaSalle won the state title. I would disagree. The stars were aligned and the Prince of Darkness himself was calling the shots the night LaSalle beat the Prep in 2006. Check the stats and any contemporary report on the game. I'd also suggest, though some LaSalle guys might take this the wrong way, that a couple of the titles LaSalle won during their run (2010 and 2011) were made easier (stars being aligned?) by the sharp decline in the quality of SJP's team in the two years following Brooks' departure. Maybe, just maybe LaSalle would have done just a bit better in at least one of those years if it had played a really good SJP team during the regular season and in the playoffs. Especially in 2010 they played no close regular season league games and no close league playoff games.
Like I said I have no allegiance to LaSalle. FBU82, I don't even follow them & I know they had stars align more than once and you didn't,,,,,,,,, wow you are one dumb phuck. Anyone who objectively reads nova4life's post can read the assholiness and arrogance in it & that's fine--- some people were raised that way and cannot control it. Now go on TedSilary.com and read up so next time you can come off like you know what you are talking about.
OK - OK, you're right...my bad....LaSalle had 2 good years, my bad!
Chulvo you're the biggest smack on here, you make JB sound lucid.
Shut your pie hole by cramming in another donut, Dad!
You display your ignorance, B-E-A-UTIFULLY!
Now count to 10, your heart must be beating like a rabbit! I don't want
you to drop and clutch your chest, Fatty Mick Butter Pants!
This post was edited on 3/27 8:40 AM by FBU82
Chulvo you're the biggest smack on here, you make JB sound lucid.
Shut your pie hole by cramming in another donut, Dad!
You display your ignorance, B-E-A-UTIFULLY!
Now count to 10, your heart must be beating like a rabbit! I don't want
you to drop and clutch your chest, Fatty Mick Butter Pants!
This post was edited on 3/27 8:40 AM by FBU82
Let's see, PCL Champs 5 years in a row, 3 eastern final appearances, 2 Championship appearances, and 1 championship. That's amazing that they fit all that into two years FB, simply amazing. I would say it's impossible to do that in two years but if you say so??!!
Tulla, I think the issue was more along the lines of Steinmetz and Schmidt. John never had a problem with the Gordons. He had a major problem with Schmidt. To the point that he just up and resigned, not knowing Gordon was gonna do what he did. Then John did the "about face" and applied. It's funny how people look for intrigue when there is none. Gordon may have had a problem with the administration but not with John. To put it bluntly, I think the problem was with Gordon's ego. He realized he was gonna play second fiddle to the Prep for a while because the administration was standing pat and he didn't want to end his coaching career like that. So he takes it to his alma mater and plans on a new chase. Nothing wrong with that at all.
This post was edited on 3/27 9:00 AM by paul from philly
This post was edited on 3/27 9:00 AM by paul from philly
well said yesman. i wonder if they will ever realize change is good and you can do it without sacrificing your integrity or academic standards. it takes creativity and leadership, two things lasalle should have plenty of.
chuvlao, you call what I posted arrogant? I stated four facts. you seem soft, did u go to LC or Egan?
chuvlao, you call what I posted arrogant? I stated four facts. you seem soft, did u go to LC or Egan?
or maybe they just enjoy giving stiffs like you a hard time. curious as to why you won't address the content of my original post and are so caught up in my arrogance and tone? please address the 4 things I stated. I know JB never will.
PCL, you must be talking about "The Elephant" in the room. You know you're not supposed to talk about that!!
SJP didn't lay 30+ on the defensive coordinator. They laid it on a defense that clearly wasn't as good as their offense. A late Jim Johnson-led defense wouldn't have stopped them. I mean really? If anything the defensive coordinator had that LS defense overachieving in a lot of years. He wasn't the problem the last two years. SJP's terrific offense was.
Lastly, John has been a terrific and dedicated coach for LaSalle for over three decades. He deserves this opportunity and I wish him nothing but the best. It's always great to see good people get this type of opportunity.
Lastly, John has been a terrific and dedicated coach for LaSalle for over three decades. He deserves this opportunity and I wish him nothing but the best. It's always great to see good people get this type of opportunity.
For the lasalle faithful: Do you see this hire as a long term solution or short term "get some one on board now" type of hire? Im guessing the new hire is in his late 50's and not likely to be around for the long haul-win or lose. While the St Joes coach is young enough that he could be there for another 20 years, if he so desires.
He's 56. I think it's for the long haul. No matter what, winning or losing, it's for the long haul. He has the respect of the school, players and parents and quite frankly, he deserves the shot. Funny how people say "it was a comfort hire", "not much went into it", "who was on the selection committee", "how dare they not look at all candidates" and so forth. I say it was an easy hire. He's the guy!!
This post was edited on 3/27 10:30 AM by paul from philly
This post was edited on 3/27 10:30 AM by paul from philly
Infante comes across as a young, highly energetic, upwardly mobile individual driven by achievement and success. When you read his Bio you'd understand why!! I would think that a "higher" level of opportunity will come calling soon who's offer he can't refuse.
Hard to believe John would resign after 35 years because of Schmidt who was there one season and very publicly looking to move on...Just doesn't add up...
Spider, I don't know if he was publicly looking to move on. There were reports that one of the other coaches at Neshaminy was thinking of coming down to join Schmidt at La Salle with his QB son. Just conjecture but it was in the rumor mill.
This post was edited on 3/27 11:23 AM by paul from philly
This post was edited on 3/27 11:23 AM by paul from philly
Tulla -
The new LS coach is a good guy. I don't want to get into too much detail, but there was friction with the former head coach - more than most people know. The new LS coach thought about this challenge long and hard and was one of the last names to apply. He is a fine choice but I also know it is not a long term scenario in his mind (5 years or less). He can take the rudder and steer as things get back in order to move forward. He was a major reason the SJP offense of the previous SJP head coach was stifled. And, I also know that the LS staff gave the former SJP coach a ton of credit for elevating their play and the entire catholic league some 15-20 years ago. I also think it's somewhat symptomatic that the former LS coach and former SJP coach may have succumb somewhat to their own intensities and competitiveness. I agree that the rivalry is good regardless of who has what championships. Lastly, I got to thinking about each sport at each school. Frankly, the head coaches of soccer, baseball, basketball have all been 'in house' at SJP either teaching or a combination as athletic director. So the model existed long before football. I also believe LS has had coaches that held similar positions and capacity recently as well.
The new LS coach is a good guy. I don't want to get into too much detail, but there was friction with the former head coach - more than most people know. The new LS coach thought about this challenge long and hard and was one of the last names to apply. He is a fine choice but I also know it is not a long term scenario in his mind (5 years or less). He can take the rudder and steer as things get back in order to move forward. He was a major reason the SJP offense of the previous SJP head coach was stifled. And, I also know that the LS staff gave the former SJP coach a ton of credit for elevating their play and the entire catholic league some 15-20 years ago. I also think it's somewhat symptomatic that the former LS coach and former SJP coach may have succumb somewhat to their own intensities and competitiveness. I agree that the rivalry is good regardless of who has what championships. Lastly, I got to thinking about each sport at each school. Frankly, the head coaches of soccer, baseball, basketball have all been 'in house' at SJP either teaching or a combination as athletic director. So the model existed long before football. I also believe LS has had coaches that held similar positions and capacity recently as well.
Huck, I agree with you. Oh boy here comes April Snow! LOL..... and Roxy makes great points. Promoting within and keeping in house promotions is not a bad thing. Hard work and success should be awarded. The whole except and accept choice is one that should be explored. Should one be eliminated? Is it redundant? Who makes those rules any way? A lot? ALOT? Hey, who can say........ Nice to have corrections of spelling, grammar, and sentence structure on a football forum board..... that guy must be really smart and he showed us......yawn..........
Well Roxy, I am a grammar specialist. Let me tell you.....as I bump my belly and swat away the potato chip remnants from my shirt....... I so wish I spoke English as my second language so I can get away with just saying it whatever way I want and its fine....... As Bernie Parant stated in his retirement speech...."America been very very good to me"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zing a zang a zoom.............